Clevo P751TM1-G / P750TM1-G (iX-9X00K, RTX 20X0) vs Windows 7

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  1. yrekabakery

    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    They're fine too, I prefer Killer cards though because on my network setup the latency and jitter in online games are slightly better with the 1525/1535 and I don't have to use WLAN Optimizer to fix the ping spikes on the Intel cards.
     
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  2. Freeman Black Mesa King

    Freeman Black Mesa King Notebook Enthusiast

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  3. Freeman Black Mesa King

    Freeman Black Mesa King Notebook Enthusiast

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    The problem with VGA still persists, unfortunately.
    The drivers don't install: "unsupported hardware" and blah-blah.
    The only way I get the installed is by manually adding the DEV id of my VGA card to the INF files.
    However, there are 2 issues:
    - G-SYNC menu not present in the Control Panel.
    - Hibernation works glitchy every time.

    I have no idea what the hell wrong with the NVidia people, as "Microsoft Windows® 7, 64-bit versions" and "NVIDIA Notebook GPUs: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080" are both officially supported and listed in the release notes!:
    http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/431.36/431.36-win10-win8-win7-release-notes.pdf
    (page 27 and 29)
    http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/419.67/419.67-win10-win8-win7-release-notes.pdf
    (pages 26 and 28)
    What a shame!

    Has anyone managed to get the VGA drivers installed and working normally/properly?
    (or at least to modify them in the way that they don't have these 2 issues) (NVidia, shame!)
     
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  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The mobile world is usually a little different ad it's a bit more complex.
     
  5. Freeman Black Mesa King

    Freeman Black Mesa King Notebook Enthusiast

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    Please, check the release notes again,

    "Supported Operating Systems"
    "Microsoft Windows® 7, 64-bit versions"

    "Supported NVIDIA Notebook GPUs"
    "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080"

    It is all officially supported and must just work, without any driver mods and issues!
    But none of 4XX.XX does.

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Nvidia officially support it, the OEM does not.
     
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  7. Freeman Black Mesa King

    Freeman Black Mesa King Notebook Enthusiast

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    Why should be there something to do with manufacturer?

    1.
    This is already my third Clevo, and I've been always installing original latest available drivers from HW component makers (NVidia, Intel, Realtek, etc), and not the outdated versions provided by the laptop manufacturer. (With the exception of 1-2 specific drivers, like Airplane mode or Clevo Center).
    And everything has been always fine.
    This experience makes me almost 100% certain that laptop manufacturer doesn't have something to do with the NVidia stuff and the problem with the original NVidia drivers from NVidia.

    2.
    Moreover, in the INF files in the original NVidia drivers for Win10, the HW ID of my VGA card is present in many the sections, meanwhile in the INF files in the original NVidia drivers for Win7, the ID is just missing in all files!
    This is one more point that it's not something to do with manufacturer, but with NVidia.
    As this means that the drivers were indeed meant for my card and must install and work smoothly (since it is the presence of the HW ID that the setup checks before installing).
    But nvidia configured the Win7 drivers in the way that makes the installation on Win7 just impossible without modifying INFs (adding strings with the ID manually).
    (even though they claim all is officially supported)

    PS:
    3.
    Another way to ensure that it's NVidia's crap and not the manufacturer, would be to install a test copy of Windows 10, download original drivers by NVidia for Win10, and see them installing and working smoothly, even though they are not from the laptop manufacturer.
    That would be another proof of the first two points.
    I don't have opportunity to do this test. But i'm 100% sure that all will install and work great.
     
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  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    look at it another way: it may support EITHER win7 OR rtx cards, but not both xD

    Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Firmware plays a part and the machines were never tested on windows 7.
     
  10. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    Nothin wrong w/ Windows 10 LTSC and some tweaks, don't let the hype/overexaggerated issues mislead you.
     
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