Clevo P650HS-G vs Clevo P950HR

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  1. Ramsey66

    Ramsey66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks so much! You're a champ! I'm amazed that it never went above the max. Just to confirm, that's 74 degrees, right?

    I know the guys over at notebookcheck torture the poor thing (multiple benchmark tests simultaneously run). I must confess I am no expert, please continue testing it however you see fit. I'm thinking of getting one (or, rather, the gtx 1060 version) and I'm very keen to find out how it manages the heat. I should ask, do you think the 1060 version would be any hotter?

    The only other thing I'd ask about is sound quality.

    You're amazing, thanks for doing this :D
     
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    I think I had 78C as the max.... did my post say 74C ? Maybe it did go up. I just know it didn't hit 80C.

    I plan to find out why though, tomorrow, right now I couldn't be bothered, recovering from thanksgiving party last night.
     
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    Ramsey66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Righto :) I hope the party was fun!
     
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    That 2-day stress test info is great news; I hope my soon-to-be ordered P650 will fare as well running multi-day GPU calcs, Nice to hear your machine is capable of keeping the heat down.
     
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    So did the repaste and retest and the temps are much better.
    The scores relatively I think the same, I didn't run it multiple times or anything just ran the appt and snipped.


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    CPU before repaste :
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    here is what the heatsink looks like, it's as if it's pasted twice , like repasted right ontop of old paste or something :
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    Here is what the system looks like inside :
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    So before repaste :
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    After repaste:
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    CONCLUSION : Repaste very successful and recommended.

    I did notice the fans were not on when idle, thus is makes less noise. I do not even think they went full blast during the benchmark.
     
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    Ramsey66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks so much! Do you have any idea if the 1060 would be hotter (i.e. if the 905hp6 would have similar thermals)?

    I find this all very odd though. Half the reviews I see on this device say "Wow, super cool and fast. Best thing ever!". The other half say: "Bad thermals, throttles on games.". Is it just the luck of the draw?
     
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    Luck, thermal paste, usage; it runs fairly well as long it's on a flat surface and has space to exhaust air. You never know what kind of abuse/misuse some reviews are speaking from, unfortunately.
     
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    nah it would be probably 5-10C less as my educated guess.

    I think, stock, the way it's pasted from factory, it would be 50/50

    From what I;ve seen, the pictures show a cheap method of applying thermal paste, it's not that it's bad, it's just how they do things in laptops.

    The issue is, it's borderline, it is suited well for some users, and not for others.

    If I had to guess, in a hot room, with the laptop being used extensively for 12 hours, and little ventilation, and on the lower end of paste jobs stock, it would be maybe 10C worse then my stock was. It would then throttle if I had to guess.

    However - in such situation, many laptops would throttle. The cases where they do not, are ones designed for like 1080's and have larger heatsinks and larger fans and more room etc...

    This laptop has a lower powered 1070, thus less power less heat, but still very very close to full performance.

    What I would recommend is a SLIGHT undervolt on the GPU and CPU, the CPU more than the GPU, because the GPU can handle it and seems to be lower temps at full load then the CPU is, thus again, I am relatively sure anyone throttling is CPU throttling.

    ALSO - as a precaution, I added a copper shim and some paste of course, naturally to the PCH controller as well, just incase, because it had no sink on it, probably doesn't need it, but in Alienware's that were thin, I always noticed performance and stability increase with doing this, and as such I also offered this in all models anyone purchased from me, be it Alienware or Clevo , MSI etc.
     
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    Woodzstack, Thanks so much for all your work here. I suppose I have one last question (directed at anyone really). I often keep laptops for a significant time, nurturing them like the small metal beasts that they are. As such, build quality matters to me. Is there really a significant difference between the p650 and p950 in this regard? I know people say that the lid on the p650 is a bit flimsy, but is it so bad that people actually worry about it when putting the machine in a bag? I suppose I should also ask (my other "last question"): Is the weight difference between these two machines substantial? To those who have lugged around both: Do you mind the difference?

    Thanks!
     
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