Clevo P375SM-A

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  1. MahmoudDewy

    MahmoudDewy Gaming Laptops Master Race!

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    Good Day lads,

    Since I had enough with AW and its continuous misbehaves, I went and ordered a Clevo P375SM-A because I can swap almost all of the components in 17R1 to the this Clevo. This is my first Clevo and I had couple of questions:

    1- I asked the reseller to make sure the machine has the latest bios before shipping. Was that a stupid idea because my understanding is that the bios downgrade process in Clevo is a bit complicated and if the new bios is crappy am I stuck with it and can't downgrade?

    2- Are W10 drivers from different resellers for the same machine compatible ? because I see some drivers are newer for the same machine but from different resellers (Basically what matters to me is the hotkey manager, soundblaster ... etc.) Audio, Video, wireless are irrelevant because I use the drivers from their respective sources anyway.

    3- Is there anything specifically critical or important about this model or something that I should know or take care of when I am using it? so far I know the trackpad and sound bar lighting are ugly and found the ways to disable them. Is there something else?

    4- I know this is highly subjective, but did any of the members here who made the switch from AW to thsi specific generation of Clevos feel that it was a severe downgrade in quality or is it more or less the same? I know new clevos are of the same or higher quality than current AWs.
     
  2. t6nn_k

    t6nn_k Notebook Consultant

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    My P370EM3 has served me well for 4,5 years. No fails so far so your's should be fine too.
     
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    Perfect! That's the same generation, that gives me comfort.
     
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    - No worries about the BIOS update, U'll be wanting Premamod anyways.
    - Resellers pretty much have all the same drivers, as long it's for the model it's compatible.
    - Probably loud cooling solution and mediocre temps
    - I had pretty much all notebooks and honestly it doesn't feel like an upgrade or downgrade. Overall they are equally as good, alienware is stronger in some regards, clevo in others, end result will be both are pretty much equal.
     
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    I had to ask as I have never seen a CLEVO in real life before :D
     
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    By "all components" I hope you don't mean GPUs, Dell GPUs don't work in Clevos

    I really like the P370 chassis. Simple, elegant, great feel, durable. Clickboard took some getting used to (if P375 also had it?) but I will miss it, and cooling needed some enhancing since I was used to P870 temps...

    I have had it over 500W wall draw no probs so it's overbuilt i.e. safety margin for "standard" operation. Keep it cool and it'll do well. Max fans all the time will wear them out but they are the cheapest thing on it to replace.
     
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    I already had a CLEVO GPU in my machine and I kept it with a CLEVO vBios that I undervolted myself, so no problems there.

    The strange location and shape of the touchpad seemed like it will need sometime getting used to, but I rarely use the touchpad so no problem there too.

    Now cooling that is problematic. Do you have any recommendations? I will be using my own new thermal pads and GCextreme paste, is there something else I should do?
     
  8. Danishblunt

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    Clevo tend to be horrible at making their heatsinks fit and the mass is almost always lacking.

    Getting a shim for your graphicscard is probably a good idea, the GPU cooling is downright terrible since they made it so that it doesn't touch the die with enough pressure. 0.3 or 0.5mm thickness should be good. If you're really unlucky you might need 0.8mm or even 1mm.

    CPU cooling plate will depending on your luck also need a good ol lapping round.

    If you can, adding a couple of fins on the heatsinks will also decrease your temps a couple of c's. If you get a small fan and a couple of ram heatsinks, you can make a heatsink on the GPU die which blows the air out, this mod will take another 10-20c of the GPUs.

    The only good thing about the cooling solution is that they actually have big fans, so if you fix a lot of problems heatsink and heatpipe wise, you can create soemthing decent out of it, it requires a lot of work tho.

    Oh and before I forget, if you use the notebook to listen to music to, then getting external speakers might be a good idea or use a headset, the speakers on clevo notebooks are terrible.
     
  9. MahmoudDewy

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    Ouch! To me temperature and sound quality are everything to me :( ... How hot are talking about? I run my UVed 980m in the AW around 65-70c under load never seen it going higher. The Haswell is around 75-80c under load. Should I expect more than this out of the CLEVO ?
     
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    Don't worry, all notebooks have their issues, at least you can fix them in clevo. MSI notebooks are probably the notebooks that have the least problems.
     
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