Clevo Inferior GPU's?

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  1. Danishblunt

    Danishblunt Notebook Deity

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    I like how you showcased how the combined test result shows some kind of bottleneck in Mr.Fox turdbook (probably caused by a powerdraw issue), thanks for pointing that out, you're the man! Keep up the good work. <3

    btw. still waiting for game benchmarks like the thread asked for.
     
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  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    Thanks, yes... it is amazing work... world class and industry leading notebook performance that the lesser notebooks cannot even attempt to aspire to. It's nice owning the most powerful notebook available. As far as the game benchmarks, I don't waste my time on irrelevant activities that I gain nothing from doing, so you'll be waiting forever. Don't hold your breath.

    Just so you understand what you are looking at, the combined test difference reflects the more powerful HEDT CPU. The 10% / 6 FPS difference is very small considering the 7700K is not really an enthusiast CPU by desktop standards, has 50% fewer cores/threads and was clocked 400MHz less than the hexacore.

    One thing you seem to not be aware of is some benchmarks and even some games run better on older hardware. 980, even 780, is able to outperform 1080 and Titan Xp in certain tasks. That's just the nature of software. Likewise, Windows 7 performance beats Windows 10 performance on many things.
     
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  3. Papusan

    Papusan BGA Filthy = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    Learn how Futuremark's 3DMark benchmark software works.

    Combined test
    "3DMark Fire Strike Combined test stresses both the GPU and CPU simultaneously. The GPU load combines elements from Graphics test 1 and 2 using tessellation, volumetric illumination, fluid simulation, particle simulation, FFT based bloom and depth of field. The CPU load comes from the rigid body physics of the breaking statues in the background. There are 32 simulation worlds running in separate threads each containing one statue decomposing into 113 parts. Additionally there are 16 invisible rigid bodies in each world except the one closest to camera to push the decomposed elements apart. The simulations run on one thread per available CPU core."

    And how many cores have 5960X? 4, 6, 8, 10 or 50?:rolleyes:
     
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  4. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    That's exactly right. For the longest time a 1080 would give better fps than a 1080ti in PUBG. In fact I'm not sure if it's even been fixed yet. And that's just 1 example without looking too hard.

    @Danishblunt

    I'm not sure you know what you're arguing here. There's no power draw limitations on Mr Fox's machine. All the power in the world isn't going to turn a 4 core into an 5960x physics score no matter what.
     
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  5. Danishblunt

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    Has yet to be proven by benchmarks he won't provide. Thus far it seems the Clevo actually has powerdraw issues when using DX12 or games that are both GPU and CPU taxing, hence this thread to gather information. If this is fixed by prema has yet to be shown.

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11379496
    Here u can see the combined score is around 50FPS. (better CPU, higher clocked GPU)

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/10372425
    Here u can see the combined score is 53.74FPS. (worse CPU, lower clocked GPU)

    Powerdraw issues are very real when looking at very high end systems. 6Core+, despite the worse CPU, the combined score and even graphics score was better on the system with the lower clockspeed on the GPU and worse CPU. Synthethic benchmarks sadly don't mean that much in actual gaming, since i've seen countless systems that would go through synthethic benchmarks like 3dmark, cinebench but wouldn't last 10 minutes in witcher 3 for instance.

    But then again, All i'm asking for are gaming benchmarks from Tomb raider DX12, for honor, CS:GO and DX 12 deus ex, the fact that people like mr.fox keep bragging about scores that gets beaten by GTX 980 and doesn't actually show what I've been asked for lets me believe that his system isn't even stable enough to run those benchmarks without crashing or performing horribly. Which wouldn't matter anyways since stock is actually most interesting here, since it seems that he has a premamod which might have fixed a lot. It's important for me to know wheter or not there are issues, since I want to know if those clevo notebooks are recommendable or not.
     
  6. TBoneSan

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    You don't know enough information to come to that conclusion. His memory bus clock is higher for one. Perhaps he was also using the higher bandwidth SLI cable too. Plus it's also entirely possible to run a bench with higher clocks and a lower score.

    Premamod fixed any throttling issues I had when I had my machine. Not sure if Mr. Fox even has thouse games anyway. Why not do a steam gift and ask nicely and I'm sure he'll oblige :)
     
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  7. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    If you want to buy those games for me I will run the benchmarks. Not going to spend my own money on them.
     
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  8. Danishblunt

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    Can't spend a couple of euros on 1or 2 games, but spends over 10k euros on 3 overpriced notebooks. Seems good. At least you can spam other peoples thread with nonsense :eek:
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    He does not play games, he enjoys playing with the laptops, benching them and tinkering with them.

    Therefore he sees a benefit from the machines but not wasting money on games he never intends to play.
     
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  10. Ground_Zro

    Ground_Zro Notebook Consultant

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    Not everyone is a gamer... There are other uses for computers... I don't know any but I hear there are some.

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