Choosing the right GTX 980M for 8770w?

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  1. TenGauge

    TenGauge Notebook Guru

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    I am on the hunt for a GTX 980 for my 8770w laptop. I am currently looking at all of the options that are available on eBay and they seem to be pulled from a wide array of host machines. Is there one brand that's easier to work with in the 8770 than another, any to completely steer clear of because they won't work at all? I'm a novice when it comes to upgrading notebook hardware, this is actually my first notebook that has an easily user swappable CPU and GPU. I am currently looking at pulls from MSI machines, can anyone tell me if this is a decent card to get working with these notebooks, if not, can someone make a suggestion?

    Thanks in advance. Appreciate all the help I can get.
     
  2. Rideass

    Rideass Notebook Consultant

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    I bought a Clevo 980M for my 8760W that worked perfectly as long as no overclock was applied. Running the 980M maxed out WILL cause throttling as the cooling solution in the 87x0w is simply not enough.
    Some people report problems with black screen in Windows with certain other vBIOS versions. This can be circumvented by starting the laptop in UEFI mode instead as more of the HP firmware takes over the vBIOS functions it seems.

    You will need to have a modified .inf to install the drivers, I am sure you are aware. This can be easily found from https://laptopvideo2go.com/

    From my experience with both the 8760w and several 8770w machines are that they are very forgiving in using whatever GPU fits in there physically will boot. Tried a Dell Quadro K5100M that worked flawlessly. Seen several people run most other GeForce MXM3.0 based cards in them as well.
     
  3. TenGauge

    TenGauge Notebook Guru

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    That's awesome, thank you @Rideass! I purchased an MSI card off of eBay, scored it for $330, on Monday and it comes in today. Not sure if I'll have the time tonight to get it in, but I'm just hoping it's not a g-sync card (current owner doesn't seem to think it is). Looking forward to having some better framerates than my K4000m provides. I don't really game, I only play one game very occasionally (World of Warships) but having a 4K monitor my current K4000m will only play it at low settings for a reasonable frame rate. Thinking the 980m should stomp that little game in to the ground even at 4K res.
     
  4. i-Diot

    i-Diot Notebook Enthusiast

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    I7-3940XM on my 8770W

    Also using 980M GTX 8GB OVERCLOCKED in it.

    I use Notebook FanControl program which has full Support for 8760W/8770W and allows me to PUT my CPU/GPU FAN at 100% (WHEN I'M IN A MOOD TO CRANK IT UP, Usually I keep it in Auto)

    NO CPU, GPU Throttling, no thermal problems.

    HOW?

    Well it's called ColLaboratory Liquid Ultra and it's absolutely incredible thermal solution. No mods done on my gpu or cpu heatsink.

    idle GPU is 36 Degrees Centigrade
    Idle CPU is 42-43 Degrees Centigrade

    100%LOAD GPU - 72-73 MAX with 200 MHz core overclock, no volt mod, no mem overclock.
    100% LOAD CPU - reaches 77 MAX.

    Ambient temp - 22-24 degrees, no mods, no ventilation pad.

    My point - the heatsink is important, BUT the thermal compound is the killer here! Use liquid metal solution - it'll blow you away!
    HOWEVER use insulation around the GPU/CPU to prevent from shorting in case the liquid cooling solution spills away (very RARE, but theoretically possible).

    And yes - the 8770W with i7-3940XM/980M 8GB is an absolutely Futureproof investment. No machine comes close and possibly ever will.
    The very peak that hasn't ever been surpassed, and quite obviously will never be - it no longer makes economic sense to build such a massively expensive and reliable machines.
    It (8760W/8770W) is a love letter to an incredible generation of laptop building - the Compaq generation. And I absolutely ADORE it.
     
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  5. TenGauge

    TenGauge Notebook Guru

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    The only thing I don't like about the liquid metal type TIC's is that they have a very short service life in comparison to more traditional type compounds. I'd rather not have to take my notebook apart ~yearly and replace all of the compound to keep it working at its peak. They are great though, I use it on all of my desktops, I just prefer to take apart the notebook as few times as possible. Using IC Diamond I don't notice any throttling or wild temps and that stuff lasts forever.
     
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    i-Diot Notebook Enthusiast

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    Good point man. With Liquid metal you gain 4-5 degrees less and overall stabler overclock potential, however it doesn't make sense time-wise for a newbie.
    I change it once a year, no problems noticed yet.
     
  7. i-Diot

    i-Diot Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys! I exhausted every single thing I could think of
    The issue is - I upgraded from K4000M to 980M GTX (CLEVO) card. *I Dont know if it's g-sync or not.

    No brightness control works, lid close - screen goes blank. But that ain't the problem.

    After I install the NVIDIA Drivers - the screen goes dark, only external monitor works.

    Latest Bios, GPU vbios stock.

    Can someone give me a hand?
     
  8. saregama25

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    Hey guys, i just wanted to hop into this post. I just got a 8770w and would like to install a gtx 980m.
     
  9. TenGauge

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    Do it!
     
  10. saregama25

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    wow! i didnt realize until i saw this post that my labtop can run 1866 ddr3, and here i am selling two 4gb sticks of 1866 on ebay lol. Looks like im removing it now! I am running a 8770w with 12gb of 1600, will be 8 of 1866 as soon as i return home. 3740qm benching 8300, 1tb secondary drive and 860 evo boot drive.

    I want to get a 980m for this baby! but im not entire sure if ill be able to figure out all the modifying of inf. files that seems to be mandatory with it. I know i wont have any issue swapping out the parts, its just the coding. Do you think you can lay out the technical process of the bios and stuff for us newbies? i would really appreciate it!

    i have the backlit keyboard model also running a 1600x900 resolution screen. Would i be able to upgrade to a dreamcolor or 4k screen after i swap to the 980 or do i have to buy the factory one that comes with it? Its so hard to find a forum with others discussing this process.

    also, this is the 980m i plan on ordering for my 8770w,- https://www.ebay.com/itm/nVidia-GTX...m=142625053077&_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226

    I do not plan on modifying the fan as i bought an external fan that works really well from amazon, i am not sure if i need to swap the psu in the labtop to get the full performance from the 980m though?

    any tips would be greatly appreciated, please check the link just to ensure i order the right one lol
     
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