CF-19MK6/7, FZ-G1, CF-H2 or CF-C2?

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  1. Shuttlez

    Shuttlez Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello all.
    It has certainly been a while.
    I've a CF-19mk4 with 8GB ram and an SSD. It hasn't been used that much, mostly replaced it with a lenovo X240 as a couch surfer. Furthermore, while using vehicular diagnostics I can use my smart phone for most of it.

    When I need to program my LMR tetras or similar, I'll use my desktop or a lenovo W540 with the radio software on a virtual machine.

    I did refresh the install on the mk4 to install it into our voluntary fire departments new engine.

    But then it hit me, I would like to own a toughbook again and possible use it in the fire engine as well when needed.

    But the choice isn't easy. I really do need a minimum of 8GB ram and a serial port. Learning that one could have a barcode reader on a H2 - that'd be great too!

    CF-19
    + most rugged
    + it's familiar
    + mk7 can have multi-touch, but is expensive
    - Only XGA resolution, and this really is a turnoff
    - not native panasonic win10 support
    - I'll have to change the keyboard to nordic
    - Resistive touch

    FZ-G1
    + Resolution
    + lighter
    + rugged
    + Capacitive touch!
    - serial port is quite rare
    - haven't seen any with a barcode reader
    - Only 4GB of ram in my price range

    CF-H2
    + these are quite cheap
    + memory is upgradeable
    + 3rd gen i5 available
    + Barcode reader is available as option
    - Resistive touch
    - Only XGA
    - a bit plastic, not so easy to work on

    CF-C2
    + These are affordable
    + larger (12"), better screen
    + Capacitive touch!
    + 4th gen i5 available
    - semirugged?
    - barcode reader and serial are mutually exclusive?
    - The keyboard would need swapping - is there even a nordic version available?

    I have access to used RAM and LTE-cards. I will put in a new SSD anyway.
    The C2 might be the way to go, but I'll have to choose between a serial port and barcode reader - the latter isn't an option on the CF-19, might be in the FZ-G1?

    What would you do? buy them all? :)

    I'm very unfamiliar with all but the CF-19 - and then only with mk4 and mk5.

    Is the C2 any good? I'm not thinking about beating it around.
     
  2. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    Serial is an option on G1, but rare indeed. Easy to add if you buy the kit.
    barcode reader is optional too, but you can't get both.
    ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/fzg1/fz-g1_specsheet.pdf
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    CF C2 are nice but fragile for sure. After having a CF 19, I don't feel a CF C2 would be enough.
    ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/toughbook/specsheets/C2_Spec_Sheet.pdf
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    Never owned a H2 but these would get you best bang for your buck as far as performance goes.
    I am sure they are more durable than a C2..
    ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/computer/toughbookh2/toughbook-h2_specsheet.pdf
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    CF 19 rugged and has serial. No barcode reader option.
    Pricey for multi touch model.
    ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/toughbook/specsheets/TB-19_ss.pdf
     
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  3. User32

    User32 Notebook Consultant

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    G1 > 19 Mk7 any day, and I own both.
     
  4. safn1949

    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    H2 is a pita to use but dont let it fool you, it's very tough. I love the C2 with an SSD, it's screaming fast and build quality is high. The black corners will break but they are just decorations. Excellent touchscreen.

    CF-19 is tough but heavy, the H2 and 19 are about the same screen wise. The C2 would be my choice, fast, beautiful screen and very good quality. Not sure on replacing the keyboard.
     
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    C2 keyboard is VERY securely taped down.
     
  6. Shuttlez

    Shuttlez Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'll test with a cheap CF-C2 mk2. We'll see how it turns out.
    The display is not much better than H2 or 19, but the touch seems way better by specs.
    A quick look at ebay shows very few with serial option. I read that someone got the option, but he never wrote about the outcome. (link: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/panasonic-cf-c2-serial-port.801931/)

    And then there's the CF-D1. This just shows how long I've been out of touch with reality.

    The C2 seems to have decent Win10 support. Are there any significant changes between the mk2 and mk2.5 besides the CPU going from i5-4300u to i5-4310u? (1,9GHz to 2GHz)

    Am I correct to assume the mk1 is minipcie for wwan and the mk2 is m.2?

    What's the max memory in one of these? From what I've read the second ram-slot is buried deep within, but should be changeable?
     
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    Speaking of barcode readers, you can't have serial and barcode reader at the same time. My G1 has a barcode reader in the optional device slot.
     
  8. safn1949

    safn1949 I'm sure I'm on the wrong planet

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    The C2 is cheap enough to go ahead and try, it's also lightweight so if it won't work out you still have a nice travel rig. I believe the screen is quite a bit higher then the H1 and 19. 1366x768 ?

    The H2 is awkward, thick but not too heavy, I have thrown one across a cement floor as a demo, hard hit. The battery doors will pop open but no damage. There's a video of the Panasonic guy using one as a hammer to beat a motion computing tablet screen to pieces.
     
  9. Shuttlez

    Shuttlez Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oops. I don't know how to tell the missus.
    I've got two CF-C2 mk2s on the way and yesterday I picked up a FZ-G1 mk1 on eBay.
    Oooops.
     
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  10. Shawn

    Shawn Crackpot Search Ninja and Options Whore

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    ha ha ha...
     

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