Can't get Corsair Force MP400 SSD to work in GS65 Stealth Thin -laptop. Combability issue?

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  1. kko

    kko Notebook Enthusiast

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    edit: removed my accidental reply
     
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  2. kko

    kko Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you for the suggestions!

    My currently installed Intel RST controller driver version is 16.0.2.1086.

    I'll need to check later whether the current BIOS setting is AHCI or RST mode, and that is on the list of things that we will try.

    Did I understand correctly, that I should try either:
    1) AHCI mode with 17.9.-x drivers installed for the Intel RST controller,
    or
    2) RST mode with up to 18.36-x drivers installed for the Intel RST controller?

    Was there any other suggestions that I missed from your posts?

    What did you mean with UN-configured RST..?

    I could try to install Samsung NVME 3.2 drivers. According to one reddit post that version should work with my Samsung PM981 SSD. It's not clear if the latest 3.3 driver supports my Samsung SSD however. The reddit post is contradicted by one person saying that "Samsung PM981a are OEM devices and have no special drivers. Just stock ms NVME."
     
  3. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    the drivers support for older chipset are different depending on the SATA CONTROLLER setting in BIOS

    lot samsung "EVO edition" need only AHCI + NVME drivers ,.,but lot normal NVME need only RST rom
    try RST mode "but not configure RAID0" only set SATA CONTROLLER mode in BIOS

    or best compatibility is RST + RAID0 "but 2x identical disk" - this works best
    or 2x samsung "evo" AHCI + NVME drivers

    .,.,,. basis compatibility for 4TB
    WINDOWS - UEFI
    DISKPART - disk table GPT

    EDIT

    your BOOT-LOOP problem + new ssd
    is possitible use BIOS or is this impossible ???
    ,.,.verify storage info in BIOS "is visible or not ?" // try change SATA CONTROLLER MODE "AHCI or RST"
     
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    kko Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks again for your reply,

    The BIOS> Advanced > SATA Mode is already set to RST. But like I mentioned in my last reply, my current Intel RST controller driver version is pretty old: 16.0.2.1086. I'll also try the AHCI mode on Thursday, when I will try to again to install the Corsair SSD.

    MSI's own website for my GS65 laptop only provides version 16.7.1.1012 of "Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver". I will install this before Thursday. If I run into problems on Thursday, I guess I could try the 17.9.-x and 18.36-x drivers too.

    I'm pretty sure that I don't have RAID0 configured between my current Samsung 512GB SSD and an WD 1TB SSD (that will be replaced by the Corsair SSD), but don't know how to check this. I don't have any additional SSDs (and no two identical SSDs either), so I can't try those suggestions of yours.

    I will also see on Thursday, whether I can go to BIOS during the bootloop. I'm hopeful, because I remember that during the bootloop the display showed the MSI logo and "Repair Mode" before booting again.

    I checked in BIOS that UEFI mode is selected, and the Corsair SSD has GPT.
     
  5. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    try first test only bios level access "here works RST ROM /oROM" - bios modules

    RAID0 verification - ADVANCED/RAPID STORAGE TECHNOLOGY "sub menu"
    and must be enabled SATA CONTROLLER - RST

    add new ssd + cmos reset - for best results ?? "cmos reset fully restore bios to defaults !!"
    45s power button when notebook run

    ////
    drivers "for windows" for 300SERIES ,,..,and version VS SATA mode "example ,.,.RST - for my 7th 18.36 / but AHCI - 17.7"
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-laptops-drivers.800622/page-186

    ,.,.try disable SECURE BOOT some disk use custom bootloader "but badly signed"
    verify bios BOOT options ,,.,.try disable FAST BOOT


    // BOOTLOOP ?? but from windows / msi recovery
    or using any windows files on 1TB WD "old storage" ?? -- verify disk manager "for hidden partitions"


    .,,.,..,or exist some SETUP in admin bios "hotkey"
    but after your upgrade must works bios access ;)
     
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    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    this is good info

    POST-BOOT ,,.windows problem !
    OS bootloader works

    try only verify files on old WD storage
    and verify BOOT tab option "in bios" any external BOOT LOADER ??? "some WD use custom"

    OS loader
    disk storage
    others


    or broken RAID0 ??
    RAID0 verification - ADVANCED/RAPID STORAGE TECHNOLOGY "sub menu"
    and must be enabled SATA CONTROLLER - RST


    EXAMPLE - "2x NVME in RAID0 + 1x SATA SSD"
    ssss.png
    here is possible verify new disk "on bios level"
    when information about the new 4TB is missing - it is a problem


    //// edit :D
    for safe work with ssd ..create a backup !! bad RST drivers or CMOS reset or new configuration are possible lost DATA !!!
    for SSD - impossible recover !!

    ,.,.,.edit2 image
     
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  7. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    send some more information

    from current state "samsung + WD"
    BOOT mode ?? "uefi"
    BOOT SEQUENCE -LIST "you must use BOOT/UEFI BBS " fixed or similar menu is for CSM or legacy mode

    verify all partition on on WD "disk manager or DISKPART"
    it is possible that the problem is not a new SSD .,,.but any system partition on this WD / or any special drivers for WD

    SAMSUNG storage ? here is GPT ? all disk must be GPT + UEFI mode !
    verification
    CMD
    DISKPART
    list disk


    .,,will see
     
  8. kko

    kko Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for your thorough feedback NeXt3R,

    We will try installing the Corsair SSD within the next 12 hours. Before that I will answer your questions and give further information about my current laptop setup.

    In BIOS, SATA CONTROLLER mode is set to RST. At "Advanced/Rapid Storage Technology", both the Samsung 512GB SSD (Win10) and the WD 1TB SSD are listed as "Non-RAID Physical Disks". I updated the RST driver into version 16.7.1.1012.

    BOOT mode is UEFI, and the BOOT SEQUENCE LIST is 1. USB drive, 2. Samsung SSD, 3. Disabled, 4. Disabled.

    Both the Samsung SSD and the WD SSD are formatted with GPT.
    Here is a screenshot from Disk Manager, and also a printout from DISKPART:
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    [​IMG]

    Code:
      Disk ###  Status         Size     Free     Dyn  Gpt
      --------  -------------  -------  -------  ---  ---
      Disk 0    Online          931 GB  1024 KB        *   (1 TB WD, this disk will be replaced by the Corsair SSD)
      Disk 1    Online          476 GB      0 B        *   (512 GB Samsung, Windows 10 installation)
    Btw, the WD SSD is a SATA SSD, and is in the SATA/NVMe combo slot of my GS65 laptop's motherboard.
    I installed Windows 10 on the Samsung SSD before getting the WD SSD, so it shouldn't have any Windows files on it.

    The WD SSD does have a Linux boot partition, but that is only accessible if I set the WD SSD as the boot disk in BIOS. Otherwise the laptop starts in Windows 10 automatically, and I don't have any kind of multi-boot loader.

    I disabled Fast boot and Secure boot.

    My current game plan for getting the Corsair SSD installed is as follows:
    1. Replace the WD SSD with the Corsair SSD. <If unsuccessful, then:>
    2. Set the Samsung SSD as first boot device instead of USB drive. <...>
    3. Try installing Samsung NVME drivers (3.2 and 3.3). <...>
    4. Try installing newer RST drivers (17.9.1.1009 and 18.6.1.1016). <...>
    5. Swap the Samsung and Corsair SSD slots. <...>
    6. Do CMOS reset. <...>
    7. Switch SATA CONTROLLER from RST to AHCI. This is the last resort, because going back from AHCI to RST without reinstalling Win10 seems to be painful. <...>
    8. Try again earlier RST drivers (17.9.1.1009 and 16.7.1.1012).
     
  9. NeXt3R

    NeXt3R Notebook Evangelist

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    any EFI on WD ???
    this is your problem when remove this old disk

    edit, .., the best backup of everything and create normal partitions?

    edit2 ,.,.,example for defaults partitions
    Bez názvu.png
    disk1 OS - recovery / efi/ data
    disk0 DATA - data

    your have EFI "loader" or system data on WD !

    edit3 :D
    translation fix
     
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  10. NeXt3R

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    uefi linux on WD ,.,.,.but this is modded bootloader "windows os loader"

    ,.,.whne you remove this active disk - you have "missing system storage" broken system
    possitible repair BOOTREC + rebuild "or similar" or uninstall linux -remove linux bootloader

    after this install new ssd in notebook

    BOOT/BBS - here must be only OS LOADER ,,.and in bootrec must be only one boot -windows

    ,,.time for coffee and maybe I'll send how to work with bootrec :D

    edit ,.,.sent info
    CMD
    bcdedit
     
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