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C700 / CQ40 / CQ45 / DV4 / DV5 / DV6 / HDX18T - Insyde BIOS RECOVERY using a USB THUMBDRIVE

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  1. 0.0

    0.0 Notebook Consultant

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    It seems there maybe a way to flash the BIOS using a method similar to the one in the Acer Section

    Unfortunately after flashing from ver F.04 to F.12 my notebook does not boot anymore, so how to flash?

    So far this is what I have observed,

    1. Disconnect the AC adapter
    2. Remove the battery
    3. Insert the USB thumb drive
    4. Hold down the keyboard windows key + 'B'
    5. Connect the AC adapter
    6. Turn on the notebook with the power button
    7. When the power comes on, the touch pad LED is amber instead of white*
    8. Let go of the keys on the keyboard.
    9. After a few seconds the USB thumdrive is accessed by the notebook.
    10. The notebook appears to scan the files on the notebook and while doing
    so beeps rather loudly. The more files on the thumbdrive, the more beeps
    there are.
    11. It seems to be looking for something, but not finding it the notebook
    appears to recycle and try again.

    So I guess the question is what file is it looking for? I've tried the normal .FD file and changing names like BIOS.FD, INSYDE.FD even ICL50HW.FD plus a multitude of other names to no avail.

    Either it needs a special file name (probable), or this isn't fully implemented yet (unlikely), or the flash rescue system is also broken (maybe).

    Anyone have any ideas?

    Have tried asking via HP's online service but they were unable to help, will have to wait till Monday to use the land line.
     
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    Well I had just about given up, but decided to give it one last go before having to drive into town Monday and probably be told repairs would take several weeks. :(

    And YES it worked, whoohoo ! :D

    A big thanks to the guys in the Acer section especially bigozone, thanks man.

    What I did was try to guess file names that might used with this notebook, ended of with over a hundred files on the thumb drive, all the same file but different names. One of them worked, I will try to find out which one it was so at least other people with the same Compaq can hopefully find a solution.

    Why don't the ODM's, HP and the like, make these things known then I wouldn't have to worry about making loud beeping noises at 2:00am :mad:
     
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    This recovery method should also work for HP CQ40, C700, DV4t, DV5 DV6 & HDX18T
    C700 use the file name IBL80HW.FD thanks to macakox for this info.
    CQ-401AX and similar use JBL20HW.BIN or JBL20.BIN or 30FB.BIN (TBC). Thanks to iq-myst.
    DV5 see http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5022702&postcount=50. Thanks to dannyres.
    DV6-1030us and similar use the file name either 3627.BIN or 3627.FD (TBC). Thanks to errodrigues.
    HDX18T see http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5055420&postcount=57. Thanks to raj85.

    For (TBC) only one file name is correct so if someone can confirm the correct one, please let me know, thanks.

    There are probably other HP models with an InsydeH2O BIOS not covered here, so feel free to ask for help.

    The following is a discription of how I managed to
    recover the BIOS on a CQ45-107TX
    running the InsydeH2O EFI BIOS
    using a USB thumb drive.



    IMPORTANT !!!
    Obtained the correct BIOS file, HP seem to provide many different BIOS's.
    For instance the BIOS for CQ45-107AU is not the same as CQ45-107TX.

    For the CQ45-107TX I used the Insyde BIOS version F.04 file 30F7F04.FD then

    • Renamed the file 30F7F04.FD to 30F7.BIN and placed it on a USB thumb drive.

      Disconnected the AC adapter from the notebook.

      Removed the battery from the notebook.

      Inserted the USB thumb drive into one of the USB ports on the notebook.
      Didn't seem to matter which one.

      Held down the 'Windows' Key and the 'B' key.

      Connected the AC adapter.

      Pressed the 'Power' button on the notebook.

      When the LEDs came on, let go of power button and the two keys held down earlier.
      On the CQ45-107TX the touch pad LED came on as amber (disabled) instead of the normal white (enabled).

      After about 10 seconds the notebook started reading the USB thumb drive.
      While searching for the file the notebook beeped once a second.
      The number of beeps varied, depending on how big the thumb drive was and
      the number of files on the thumb drive, from just one beep to many.
      If the file was not found, the notebook would reset itself and try again.

      If the file was found then it took about 12 seconds for the notebook to load it.
      No beeping sounds heard during the loading time.

      When loaded the notebook started flashing, indicated by beeps every 2 seconds.
      This took about 32 seconds.

      About 5 seconds after the beeping had stopped the notebook shutdown.
      BIOS worked normally thereafter.

    Some notes:

    The BIOS files appear to be in this format
    Code:
      ????F??.FD
      |  || ||_|_____ EFI BIOS file
      |  ||_|________ Version number
      |__|___________ Model specific
    Therefore I would guess if you had a CQ45-115AU and your BIOS flash file was 30FBF21.FD then you would probably rename it to 30FB.BIN for use with the USB thumb drive. But I don't know for sure and as can be seen some models use a slightly different or board model number.

    Thumb drive formats.
    A 128M thumb drive formatted with FAT16 worked okay.
    A 16GB thumb drive formatted with FAT32 worked okay.

    No beeping sound
    It is possible that you will not hear any beeping at all in which case you should still observe the USB drive LED blinking on and off while loading the BIOS file then, if successful, the computer will shut itself down within 1 minute.

    raj85 has made an excellent suggestion to unpack the BIOS service pack and check the platform.ini file for a hint as to what recovery file name might be. See post http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5055420&postcount=57. Thanks raj85.

    It seems some people are using the recovery method for their normal BIOS flashing. While this is possible, chances are there will not be all the safeguards that would normally be available with a software flash and therefore I would not recommend it unless you are happy taking the extra risks involved. Also be aware that using the recovery method you will not have a battery so if you live in an area prone to power cuts / spikes or are just unlucky, it may be advisable to be plugged into a UPS before using the recovery method.
     
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    found your post on google. can i you help me? i have the same situation, i did the reverse on what you did. the model i'm using is cq40-121tu this is for my friend, and i downgraded to f.04 from f.13 try to get the sound working in winxp. but after the reboot, nothing came up on the screen. can you send me the image file. from hp website the update f.13 is a exe file and i can not extract the file.

    just an update, i was able to find the fd file by removing the hard drive from the laptop and connected it to a desktop. tried you steps and nothing seems to be processing, no lights or beep sound. pls. reply asap, it's been 2 weeks that i been working to make the sound function. btw, do you have a copy of the f.11c file? i was able to find one but not sure if it has all the files.
     
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    Hi Carl, sorry to hear you're having troubles.

    For extracting the files from the softpaq (SP?????.exe) any good archiving utility should work. For instance Tugzip (freeware) should work. Note that with the BIOS SP's you will need to unpack twice i.e. unpack sp40621.exe to W30F7F04.exe then unpack W30F7F04.exe to get the files.

    Have a quick look on google for F.11c.rar and aid=9039 its a Windows version.

    Note that after f.04 HP have 2 different BIOS types, AFAIK the D (DIS) is for discrete graphics like the GF9200M GS with 256MB and U (UMA) is for shared memory graphics. Be careful to use the right one if you don't use the DOS or Windows flash utility.

    If your switching on and there are no LEDs coming on, it may be a power problem rather than a BIOS problem.

    Hope this helps.

    P.S. I did try posting direct links (in bold) and nearly gave up posting at all. This board complains about not having posted 15 or more posts and as such wont let me use URLs sigh!.
     
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    thanks for the reply.

    i just want to clarify, when you said that "...after flashing from ver F.04 to F.12 my notebook does not boot anymore...", you meant there is no post, right? Like the compaq logo splash screen did not come up the screen after turning on the laptop? That is what happened to me.

    also, when i said that there is "no lights or beep sound", i meant after getting to the same situation on your step..."the touch pad LED came on as amber (disabled) instead of the normal white (enabled)".

    i also tried turning on the laptop normally and get the led of the caps lock to blink 3 times and a pause, then loops back to the blinking 3 times. do you have an idea on what it means?

    i tried your suggestion in finding f.11c, i was able to find one, filename is F.11c.rar. after the downloading and unzipping found out that fd file is f12. i tried it anyway using the u one for the integrated video card, but still get the same result, laptop did not read the usb flash drive or there is no sign of it reading the usb drive. i even waited for around 5 minutes, laptop did not automatically shutdown. i also tried it with an sd media card and cd-r disc, still nothing. laptop does not read them also.
     
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    I experienced the same as you, no post no BIOS setup and if IIRC not even the backlight came one for the screen (totally blank). As for the blinking CAPS I had that plus the Scroll Lock also but 1 or 2 minutes after the notebook was switched on. I would guess it had given up searching for the recovery file and reports this way to indicate a fault with the BIOS but I'm only guessing.

    Yes, the file name in f.11c.rar is 30F7F12(D/U) but if you can get it to flash, BIOS will show f.11c.

    I wouldn't expect the SD media slot to work. Not so sure with the CDROM but I had no luck with it.

    The fact that your USB drive is not being read is a worry, maybe try a different stick although you have probably done that already.

    I know it's a PITA but would you post a step by step of how you tried to flash, just incase.
     
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    what do you mea by iirc? i get the blinking caps only if i turn on the laptop normally, without doing the step you gave. doing the steps you gave, again nothing happens after to point of the laptop turn the led for the wireless and the touchpad to the color amber, i even waited for more than 5 minutes for it to do something even to automatically shutdown. but nothing happens all the led lights will stay on and nothing will change.

    the scroll lock did not lit up if i just turn it on normally.

    as for the usb flash/thumb drive, again i was using a 512 mb. formatted it with fat32 first, then tried fat. i don't need to make it bootable, right?

    just to check if i understand your steps, all i need to do with the flash drive is to copy the bios file only nothing else, after renaming it to 30F7.bin, right? the laptop is suppose to read it and once able to find the file it will automatically flash the bios without trying to read or find other files. right?

    what do you mean "PITA"? it followed you steps exactly, after copying the file. while the laptop is off, remove the ac adapter, then remove the battery, then plug the flash drive, then press the windows and b key while turning on the laptop. then i will see that the led for the wireless and the touchpad lits up in amber color, then nothing happens. then i waited for 5 mins or more, nothing still then i just turn it off.
     
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    IIRC If I Remember Correctly

    PITA Pain In The Ass (irritating)

    Just to clarify, its actually the num lock LED. The scroll lock and num lock are the same key and its the LED above that key, my bad.

    Correct, the USB flash drive does not need to be bootable.

    Looks like your doing everything correctly, if your usb flash drive has an LED, do you see some activity when you try this?

    It probably wont make any difference but try extracting f.04 from sp40621.exe (download BIOS from HP site) rename 30F7F04.BIN to 30F7.BIN and try that.

    Look for 'usb_format.zip' on google, file size is about 32k, and try reformating your usb flash drive with it.

    Otherwise I'm out of ideas.
     
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    again it's the caps lock led that blinks three times and pause and goes in a loop, when i just turn on the laptop normally. is there any one that can tell us what that means?

    i tried winxp formatting tool and "HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool" with fat and fat32 with same result. tried also with a 2 gb drive.

    led for the flash drive does not show that it's being read.

    tried the f04, still nothing laptop does not seems to be trying to read off the flash drive.
     

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