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Burn iso image to usb memory stick?

Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Jedi007, Oct 1, 2008.

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  1. Jedi007

    Jedi007 Notebook Evangelist

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    I've searched google a million times and I'm pretty certain this is impossible, but it seems so simple.

    I'm not looking for a simple drag-and-drop files from the iso to the stick, for two reasons

    1) I need to copy the MBR (or whatever it's called in linux)
    2) The filesystem is not supported on windows

    Basically I need to copy bit-for-bit from the iso file, including multiple partitions and stuff...

    The reason I'm doing this is because my new computer refuses to boot anything except windows from the CD drive. I've tried Ubuntu, Tao live, Gparted, none work! they all freeze for some strange reason half way through the loading... I figure that maybe it's possible to boot from a USB stick...

    Is there anyone at all who would know how to do this?
     
  2. ArmageddonAsh

    ArmageddonAsh Mangekyo Sharingan

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    i wouldnt think its impossible, have you made sure that the usb stick has enough space? you could try alchol 120% and see if it will allow you to burn to USB.
     
  3. Jedi007

    Jedi007 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks

    Yes, my usb stick is 8gb. I will give alcohol a shot but I doubt it will work...
     
  4. Tarentum

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    You don't want to "burn" anything, but just want a one to one copy made, no? (that's bootable). No burning software will recognize a USB stick as media, since it's not.

    Try using a hard drive imaging/shadow copy program (like Norton Ghost - except don't use Ghost, since it sucks); try some of these free ones:

    http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/09/05/5-free-apps-to-clone-your-hard-drive/

    I like Acronis True Image (or Acronis Migrate Easy - True Image is a cloning backup solution that can regularly synch, and Migrate Easy is a one time cloning software) best, from the ones I've tried in the past (which is a lot), but it's not free.
     
  5. AndrewM

    AndrewM Notebook Guru

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    Get ISOBuster, extract the contents of the ISO and copy it to the memory stick as it would appear on the DVD

    http://www.isobuster.com/
     
  6. Andy

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    Basically the whole file system is different.

    USB drives have NTFS/FAT in windows, and ODs have ISO9660 (CDFS) and UDF.

    I guess creating a MS-DOS bootable flash drive is generally done by creating a bootable MS_DOS floppy disk, and then copying the files onto a freshly formatted USB flash drive while making the appropriate/necessary modification to the MBR.
     
  7. Jedi007

    Jedi007 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks for your replies, everyone

    I tried Acronis True Image, but it doesn't recognize my cd drive as a backup-able hard drive. For a while I was thinking maybe its possible to convert and iso into a tib file and have acronis true image restore it to the memory stick, but I can't find software that does iso -> tib
     
  8. Tarentum

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    Oh wait; I thought you wanted to boot from a USB stick and/or backup? Not set up a bootable cd? You just want to backup your MBR to have a backup of it in case something happens? What is the real problem that you're trying to solve by backing up the MBR?

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/166997 <- Microsoft's advice on how to backup the Master Boot Record (with Norton Disk Edit). Looks like they'd want you to make a floppy with a bootable dos disk (I would do that, and then burn that onto disk).

    The real question is: why isn't your system loading anything but windows? Can you load windows from a cd/dvd? I'm thinking that it sounds like it's an issue with your cd/dvd rom not functioning properly. I would try and setup a bootable linux/variant on a USB drive and try booting from there (set usb drive to boot before hdd/cd in bios) and see if that works first (and then back up the MBR through linux/etc, as it's a lot easier than, say, having a DOS floppy disk).


    edit: Actually, try this first:

    BootIT NG (Terabyte Unlimited): http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm Their backup/restore allows you to backup the MBR of any drive. 30 day trial. Good luck!
     
  9. surfasb

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    It looks like you are trying to boot to a LiveCD but your CD drive refuses to boot any other operating system except a Windows CD, which is odd. It doesn't sound like a CD drive issue. What are you using to burn the liveCDs? I recommend Ashampoo, Nero, or Alcohol 120 to burn bootable CDs.

    I'm not familiar with how LiveCD works, but I would not be surprised there is a way to make it boot Ubuntu off a USB drive, since I do it myself. But it is not a LiveCD installation that I use. I just use an regular Ubuntu installation off a 8gb flashdrive with a bunch of random utilities I've stuffed into it along with a Windows PE installation I can boot into.
     
  10. Jedi007

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    Thanks for your replies people

    I'm using nero to burn, and these DVDs all work properly on other computers, all except windows. I think it's a motherboard/bios problem (I updated, no fix). I'm using the P5Q and I'm gonna send it back to get it exchanged for a gigabyte or something, but meanwhile I need to cope with it. its not the cd drive because i tried with a few other drives

    I'll try to be as clear as possible to what I want:

    I want an exact copy of a bootable linux cd (live cd, ubuntu, etc) from an iso or other CD. This includes the boot partition and all CDFS or whatever filesystem linux uses. I basically want to turn my USB stick into a cd drive or something, so I can boot the install cd from the usb stick. The title I put is exactly what I want to do "burn iso image to usb memory stick"

    Before when I was talking about acronis, I thought it would be possible and "backup" the CD to a .tib file and then "restore" that file onto the usb stick, but it's impossible since acronis doesn't recognize cd drives as backupable.
     
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