Brought a MSI GTX 1070 for a dell m7710

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  1. cooldex

    cooldex Notebook Geek

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    Backgound

    So i had my precision for a couple months since i built it, (previous laptop was a m6500) first i was using the integrated intel hd 530, but with 4k, No GO struggles to play some movies, let alone decent games i was going wait to get a dedicated gpu, a gtx 1070 or better 2 years from now when prices aren't $900+ . So then decided to buy an firepro m6100 for $100 for now, which was made for the precision m6600 and haven't been tested with the m7710 so i gave it a try and it works just with some glitches (reads m5100 in bios, only able to install hd 8950 driver). But it preforms as it should, but yet I felt like i still needed more power, during gaming, it max most modern (2016 jc3,gta5,nfs rivals,bf1,) games at 1080p with good 30+ frame rates while at 4k medium or low and barely playable the 2gb gddr5 really bottlenecks it and my 8gb ram isn't helping either. Also older games (2012 bf3,mafia 2,gta 4,csgo,mw3) max out or high at 4k. so really looking for something 4k capable at medium or better for watch dogs 2 @ 40fps, cause that game is poorly optimized but looks very good.

    Gtx 1070

    So searching for "mxm 3.0b gpu's" on Ebay I manage to find a msi gtx 1070 the odd shaped one[​IMG] for 500$ and they still have more the ten in stock so i said why not and that's the idea price i would pay for a top of the line laptop gpu not $1k, also desktop gpu's for the 1070 is around that price, hell of a deal, heck my aging rx480 go for $400 cause of the ethereum mining.So luckily my mxm slot is in the middle and by it's self with no conflicting obstacles. So I ordered it on friday and it should be here by next friday. So vote or debate what issues i might have or if i will have any, also if it doesn't work i'll just return it or resell it.

    there's some pics below, have to crop some of them for upload limit
     

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  2. bennyg

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    You will need thermal pads for cooling the fet chips on the vrm area (small square chips adjacent to the big square chokes on the opposite end to slot) at least, this is much more power hungry than a midrange card (and thermal paste cant be used to fill the gap if its 4mm)

    You may have to mod your existing heatsink to fit, if it has protrusions that clash with something in a slightly different position
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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  4. cooldex

    cooldex Notebook Geek

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    yea from the pictures it looks like it will fit in pretty well(unlike previous dell precision's) as for space between card and heat sink, as right now i do not have any thermal pads only spare paste, I will probably buy some if i need it and might get some copper shims to. Also the protruding edge on the right side of the 1070 will fit right under the two copper pipes past the lcd connector. While the other side with 1/4 of a inch of pcb doesn't conflict with the heatsink but lacks cooling (don't know if i'll need it though) Also do anyone know if it pulls 120w as notebookcheck says, and my m6100 pulls around 75w-100w as listed. And will my lcd will be an issue, not sure if its lvds or edp, monitor specs
    Monitor Name: AU Optronics B173ZAN01.0

    (screen shot below). and one more thing my psu is 230w with a i7-6920hq
     

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  6. cooldex

    cooldex Notebook Geek

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    so i got the card today but already having issues, first was fitment little stay tabs on each corner of the mxm slot, so i just use some heavy duty wire cutters to cut the plastic tabs, but then once fitted in, there was rubber cushings in the rear that i had to remove, very easy fix. But then blackscreen on boot...... so far as of now i can't boot without the igpu activated. So windows recognize the 1070 but installing drivers is the current issue, iv'e been modifying the inf files but the driver (latest mobile 1070 driver from nvidia) I've used give a bsod [video_memory_ management internal] issues and reboots after 10secs within login in(no password).Unless i disable the card or uninstall driver, so anyone have any ideas
     
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    I don't have much experience with Optimus troubleshooting (only have it on some Sony SVS13 which I don't use much), but it sounds like it might be some Optimus driver problem.

    When you modify inf files, you basically add an entry to map your laptop model and your GPU to a certain section with some driver configuration parameters for each of the supported Windows types.

    E.g. 13D7 = 980M, 05AB = some Alienware laptop model I presume -> mapped to section 330

    %NVIDIA_DEV.13D7.05AB.1028% = Section330, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_05AB1028

    Now, some of those sections have Optimus support switched on or off, so did you check which section you actually ended up using and if Optimus is enabled there?

    E.g. some sections have this flag enabled:

    NVSupportOptimus = 1


    On the other hand, it's an MSI card and IIRC, they usually don't support Optimus on the later models, but have e.g. G-Sync support instead. So, just a thought, but I'm not sure if Optimus needs to be supported by the card vBIOS and if so, did MSI keep the relevant parts in vBIOS? These cards might have been used to upgrade some Alienware models so it might be worth checking if any of those were configured with Optimus.
     
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    yea thanks man yea i was wondering about section numbers was unsure if it matters cause i used section 001 but i will try 330 and others now
     
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    so its officially works with the switchable graphics on and preferred gpu to auto or high performance in NVIDIA settings but need a 330w psu. I will upload benchmarks and pics later, right now im at work
     
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    after doing so more tests, it seems that the intel and nvidia drivers do not want to work with each other, i can only have one installed at a time. And nvidia have no control of resolution and only some apps use it even though i set all apps to use the 1070 in nvidia control panel. and no display out through hdmi while intel isn't installed.
     
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