BLACK LIST. Adjustable voltage control/turbo ratio limits are locked out due latest Win Update/Bios

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  1. Reonu

    Reonu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, quick question. My MSI GE65 9SF allows me to undervolt via the hidden BIOS menu (unlocked with a key combo). I don't use ThrottleStop anymore, I just applied the same undervolt that I had on ThrottleStop but via the BIOS. Even if I get a Windows update that disables software undervolting, the BIOS undervolt should keep working, right?

    I don't plan to update the BIOS, but even if I did, MSI allows BIOS downgrades
     
  2. maffle

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    Attention! KB4497165 was offered on all my PCs and laptops today including new Intel microcode updates! Not sure if this update will block undervolt or not.
     
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    laptopnoob678 Notebook Consultant

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    See what HWMonitor says
     
  4. gieffe22

    gieffe22 Notebook Consultant

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    asus gl704gw here with 8750h and 2070, latest 309 bios locked undervolt. I was able to flash back old 308 via ez flash utility in my bios an restored undervolt...
     
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  5. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Thanks. +reps

    Asus GL704GW added into the list of shame!

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  6. vesayreve

    vesayreve Notebook Evangelist

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    Guys, GL704GW does disable undervolt. I stupidly updated fw to 309 then checked our specific subforum. Anyway I can flash back to 308 using winflash. It is very simple actually. I think it should work for ALL of the Asus notebooks. Download that.

    Open cmd with admin privileges.
    cd to where winflash.exe is
    then enter Winflash /nodate

    Doesnt matter the version this always works. It worked on my previous Asus laptop too.

    However, now whenever I restart it says "restart needed to update firmware" or some bs like that. And whenever I restart it automatically flashes the recent bios. I updated to 309 using a bios installer, and that might be triggering restart to update thingy. After flashing 308 I rollback firmware driver in device manager which fixes the yellow warning icon it has but it still flashes new bios on restart. How can I fix this, please? There must be a flag or something that triggers that.


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  7. vesayreve

    vesayreve Notebook Evangelist

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    Figured out a way to fix it.

    309=newest bad version of bios where undervolt is disabled
    308=the one before that, uv enabled

    1. Let the pos windows auto update to the newest 309
    2. Restore system to the point before the 309 installation(windows makes one before the first installation of 309)
    3.System will restart, but PC will be problematic(shutdown of Asus software), device manager shows the firmware as 308 but bios is actually 309
    4. Prepare a USB with 308 in it. It should be formatted with fat32
    5. Enter bios (it says it currently has 309) and flash the 308 fw. Thankfully Asus is "benevolent" enough to directly downgrade with their ezflash utility on bios.
    6. Thats it. No weird shutdowns I even upped the undervolt by 5 mv just because I can. Now its -92.8 mv. My 8750h will thermal throttle slightly later now.

    FU INTEL! Hackers can steal my gay midget porn but they cannot take away my undervolt ability!
     
  8. Porter

    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    And Windows update won't come back in a while and try to update it again when it sees it as 308?
     
  9. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    The thief was Asus engineers. They could easly offer you all an proper firmware. But they chose the easiest way out. Intel doesn't force the notebook/motherboard manufacturers to give you only one solution.

    "PROPER solution would be a BIOS update removing SGX technology or exposing the option that allows it to be disabled. They could toggle voltage control on with SGX disabled and off with it enabled"
     
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  10. vesayreve

    vesayreve Notebook Evangelist

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    Control Panel>System& Security> System>Advanced system settings> hardware>device installation settings> SELECT NO.

    Done. MS can keep their driver updates to themselves.
     
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