BLACK LIST. Adjustable voltage control/turbo ratio limits are locked out due latest Win Update/Bios

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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    BLACK LIST. Adjustable voltage control/turbo ratio limits locked out due latest Win update/and or newest firmware update.

    Please post your notebook/desktop model and what hardware, if this has already happened to your PC.

    The basis for creating this thread.
    Protecting your Intel CPU from Plundervolt attacks can ruin your overclock/undervolt

    A couple of posts showing that the new cancer is real and already out...

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-1082#post-10977989
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r2-owners-lounge.829502/page-32#post-10977994
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    1) All G Series Gaming Laptops from Dell https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/gaming-and-games/sf/g-series

    2) Microsoft Surface Pro 7 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/surface-pro-7/8n17j0m5zzqs?activetab=overview

    3) HP Elitebook 840 G6 https://store.hp.com/my-en/default/hp-elitebook-840-g6-notebook-pc-7wn99pa.html

    4) Acer Predator Helios 300 (i7-9750H) https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predatorhelios300

    5) HP Probook 440 G5 https://store.hp.com/in-en/default/hp-probook-440-g5-notebook-pc-6xa38pa.html

    6) Dell XPS 15 7590 https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/xps-15-7590-laptop?~ck=mn

    7) Dell Alienware m15 https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-m15-laptop

    8) Dell Alienware m17 https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-m17-laptop

    9) XPS 15 9570 http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-22#post-11012990

    10) ASUS GX502 http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-23#post-11015240

    11) Asus GU502 http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-24#post-11015438

    12) ASUS GL704GW http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-25#post-11020492

    13) Dell Precision 7540 and 7740 http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-12#post-11002674

    14) Dell Inspiron 15 7577 https://www.dell.com/community/Insp...ottling-recent-bios-update/m-p/7621889#M87087

    16) HP Zbook 15 G6
    17) HP ZBook 17 G5
    18) Surface Laptop 3
    19) Hp pavilion 15-cx0056wm gaming laptop
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-28#post-11023414

    20) Dell Latitude E7470 http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/laptop-battery-health-questions.832239/

    21) Asus ROG Strix Scar III (both G531GV and G531GW) http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-29#post-11024211

    22) Dell Latitude 7490 http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-win-update-bios.831450/page-29#post-11025429

    Preview from the spoiler...

    1) All G Series Gaming Laptops from Dell
    2) Microsoft Surface Pro 7
    3) HP Elitebook 840 G6
    4) Acer Predator Helios 300
    5) HP Probook 440 G5
    6) Dell XPS 15 7590
    7) Dell Alienware m15
    8) Dell Alienware m17
    9) Dell XPS 15 9570
    10) Asus GX502
    11) Asus GU502
    12) ASUS GL704GW
    13) Dell Precision 7540
    14) Dell Precision 7740
    15) Dell Inspiron 15 7577
    16) HP Zbook 15 G6
    17) HP ZBook 17 G5
    18) Surface Laptop 3
    19) Hp pavilion 15-cx0056wm gaming laptop
    20) Dell Latitude E7470
    21) Asus ROG Strix Scar III (both G531GV and G531GW)
    22) Dell Latitude 7490

    Sorted by brand...

    Acer:

    Acer Predator Helios 300

    Asus:

    Asus GX502
    Asus GU502
    ASUS GL704GW
    Asus ROG Strix Scar III (both G531GV and G531GW)

    Dell - Alienware:
    All G Series Gaming Laptops from Dell
    Dell XPS 15 7590
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Dell Precision 7540
    Dell Precision 7740
    Dell Inspiron 15 7577
    Dell Latitude E7470
    Dell Latitude 7490
    Dell Alienware m15
    Dell Alienware m17

    HP:

    HP Elitebook 840 G6
    HP Probook 440 G5
    HP Zbook 15 G6
    HP ZBook 17 G5
    Hp pavilion 15-cx0056wm gaming laptop

    Microsoft:

    Microsoft Surface Laptop 3
    Microsoft Surface Pro 7


     
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  2. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Exactly what we needed. Thanks for making this thread. I just made a comment the other day that we needed a thread for a black list of companies that need to be boycotted for drinking the firmware cancer Kool-Aid.

    Intel and Micro$lop are going to kill Intel and Micro$lop. Nothing like committing hara kiri in the name of "security" LOL. Man, it seems like stupid is just coming out of the woodwork. I thought the drama revolving around Spectre and Meltdown was just about the dumbest thing I'd ever seen, but this throwing the baby out with the bath water knee-jerk reaction to Plundervolt vulnerability takes the cake for the ultimate public demonstration of being a total retard.

    AMD sucks, but it looks like it may end up being the lesser among evils. AMD CPUs (and GPUs) suck at overclocking, but so will Intel CPUs if they do this. A CPU with locked multipliers and voltage control is as worthless as the tits on a boar, so six of one, half dozen of the other, I suppose. We're all born with belly buttons and butt holes. No joy in that at all. I've never been interested in janky mainstream computing, so I'll probably just say to hell with computers. If I cannot have what I want, then I don't want anything. No point in spending my money on products that suck. They can kiss my butt. I can get cookie-cutter suckiness in a smartphone or console for a lot less.

    I bet the whole thing is an elaborate and carefully orchestrated scheme to get people to buy new computers that are "safe" from the boogieman. If it is not something they invented for that purpose, they'll certainly be able to milk it that way.

    Windows 10 is another example of a scam invented to trick people into spending money on crap they don't need in the name of "security" (also a lie). It didn't work, so they've had to kick it into Nazi-mode and resort to digital genocide to get the job done. I'm still using Windows 7, and will continue using it until it stops working, so up their nose with a rubber hose.
     
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  3. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Great thread. Much needed.
    Very much planned stupidity indeed. Corruption at its finest.
     
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  4. TheReciever

    TheReciever D! For Dragon!

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    Well I hope that Dell just completely forgets about my Ranger then, it would be agood time for that. Not that I update my sBIOS past A14+ made by the community.
     
  5. Talon

    Talon Notebook Virtuoso

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    Great... Won’t be updating my laptop BIOS, not that I planned to but losing the ability to manually adjust voltage on an already hot running BGAbook is ridiculous. If this doesn’t get resolved I’ll likely be looking at the competition for my next laptop in a year or so. This ‘fix’ is an overreaction and feels planned more than anything. An elaborate excuse to remove end user tweaking and forcing upgrades.
     
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  6. Mr. Fox

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    Exactly. If this were a real danger, the PROPER solution would be a BIOS update removing SGX technology or exposing the option that allows it to be disabled. They could toggle voltage control on with SGX disabled and off with it enabled.

    The way they are addressing it is totally unethical and calls into question the integrity of any OEM that makes this firmware available without a way to disable it or opt out.

    All of my desktop motherboards and every @Prema BIOS have a menu option to disable SGX already, so it has all the makings of a hoax and a scam.
     
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    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    I modded my own motherboard BIOS to insert the older AE microcode for the 9900k (BE microcode is ok too) and windows update is disabled on 1909.
    C6 and CA microcodes are horrible anyway for benchmarking. I don't know if CA disables overclocking or not. Not going to bother testing it with the VMware loader.
     
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  8. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    It will be a soulution for desktops. Worse if you spent your money on Jokebooks.

    This is now worth nothing!
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    Intel right now.
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    The notebook OEM/ODMs will use it all for what its worth.
     
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    Well, the new firmware with cancer microcode does not seem to have hurt anything on my desktop. I rolled the dice and flashed the new v1.20 BIOS on my X299 Dark and everything seems pretty much the same so far. Other than the firmware team getting sloppy and leaving some Chinese characters in the legend/help section in some areas, seems like everything is OK.

    https://forums.evga.com/BIOS-Update...1-Micro-ATX-2-113-Micro-ATX-122-m3013412.aspx
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  10. jc_denton

    jc_denton BGA? What a shame.

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    Apparently something got updated on my system, as my -185mV undervolt that I've used for several months, no longer boots into windows.
    Interestingly enough, I got Win10 LTSC locked down, or so I thought with O&O10, all updates disabled through that app. (along with everything else)

    Basically this happened;
    I plugged in an rj45 cable to download a benchmark and noticed that SB Connect2 somehow got installed.
    This can only happen when system searches for drivers itself, and that was disabled, as well as delivery optimization.
    After a reboot, the system would no longer boot into windows. Removing the undervolt solves the problem

    Last time I had this system connect to the internet was prior the plundervolt exploit. I'm not sure whether IME got updated or some other sneaky windows update.
    All the drivers installed were stripped down versions that had no services or bloat attached (no auto updating)

    I'll explore how great of an impact it had on the undervolt before reinstalling LTSC. And I'll have to make sure that nothing gets auto updated in the future, even with o&o10. Hopefully this goes away after formatting, as I'm not sure what to do if this messed with the firmware.

    But what absolute nonsense to push this kind of crap without asking for consent or giving an option to opt out.
     
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