Big Sur is officially macOS 11.0 as Apple finally leaves OS X behind

Discussion in 'Apple and Mac OS X' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. ssj92

    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    I wonder why they didn't allow the 2013/2012 retina models. Oh well, a patch will probably be released allowing them to work. :rolleyes:

    Not anytime soon. Apple's transition period is 2 years from 2020. So they will most likely still sell Intel based computers until 2022. Not to mention they will continue support the Intel based computers for a long time. It's 2020 and they are supporting 2013 models (7 years later). The 16" Intel based Macbook Pro, not to mention the Mac Pro will be supported for years to come.

    I am estimating a good while until the Hackintosh is killed off.

    Yup

    iOS [iPhone 8 Plus]
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    All are stable? I'm close to doing it myself.
     
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    Yep. It is why I specifically mentioned no Dock for an iPhone. There's a big UI gap / difference between a device like a watch or phone vs. a full computer
     
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    I have not had any issues yet with either of them but do remember it's only been a day so far since we got the beta.

    You can always wait until next month for the public beta which is normally a bit more stable.

    Honestly just from 1 day of testing this seems like a solid build for now
     
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    I installed it as soon as it was available and I concur it's quite stable. I did have one Safari error "Divide by Zero" but that was it, less issues in one day than Catalina in an hour lol (I swear I never had as many issues even on the much derided Vista which unlike most people I found stable lol).

    Eventually I went back because some apps weren't running mostly due to needing updates and some Steam games gave unsupported platform errors, incidentally those same games while also not officially compatible with Catalina according to Steam still worked on 10.15 ie Total War Rome II and Attila. DOTA2 also refused to run due to the same "unsupported platform" error. Other reason was while UI seemed nice in the Apple demo, it was quite inconsistent and scathing to my eyes in places like Safari where the top menu blended into web pages without a gradation and other annoying UI inconsistencies, mostly cosmetic, which obviously will be rectified on launch or so I hope. Overall definitely quite stable and useable as a daily driver assuming you don't have some of those apps that need to be updated to work.
     
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    iMbaQ Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it may point to Apple in the future embracing a touch screen - So the iOS/iPadOS app experience is consistent.

    I know they knocked the idea of touch screens in the past, but they have also knocked the idea of tablets and styluses before but they’ve u-turned on that.
     
  7. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I've said this before, but Apple putting a touchscreen on a Mac undermines the iPad Pro's raison d'etre. I don't think it's going to happen, at least not in the near or mid-term.
     
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    iMbaQ Notebook Evangelist

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    A touch screen Mac will never replace an iPad just how an iPad could never replace an iPhone. I remember the days of an iPad just being called a bigger iPhone.

    Form factor makes too much of a difference imo. Also the cost differential between an iPad and a MacBook is a huge factor.
     
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    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Apple has never marketed the iPad as an iPhone replacement. They have marketed the iPad as a laptop replacement.
     
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    kojack Notebook Virtuoso

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    It won't change anything with ipad sales. An imac and Macbook pro running a series chips, with touchscreen would make me switch to Mac and would even buy a ipad pro to go with it. They all have different use cases.
     
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