BGA vs PGA continuation

Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Papusan, May 6, 2015.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    (Note: This was the best starting point I could find for this conversation so this is a thread split, hence why the first post doesn't make sense - Ethrem)

    I was most shaken of the heavy throttling from the processor in 3Dmark11 combined test... I wondered if I had seen right:D I almost forgot that this was the newest BGA high end processor from Intel packed into the new modern thin gaming laptop from Dell:p
     
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    Game7a1 ?

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    Just wanting to answer, yes. Or at least it should be a yes. The A02 wasn't released when Mr.Fox did his benching or the 15 and 17 R2, and even then, he did discover the wattage limiter (wattage limited by which PSU is detected at boot) the two laptops had, which then lead to the A02 BIOS to "fix" the problem.
     
  3. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    @Mr.Fox, I guess it was the 1st BIOS right? A00??
    Game7a1 Just wanting to answer, yes. Or at least it should be a yes. The A02 wasn't released when Mr.Fox did his benching or the 15 and 17 R2, and even then, he did discover the wattage limiter (wattage limited by which PSU is detected at boot) the two laptops had, which then lead to the A02 BIOS to "fix" the problem.

    Pretty amazing that Dell's engineers failed to perform such mandatory testing-benching as Mr Fox did with Dell's new gaming laptop they had just developed. What if no one had told about such an issue? Had Dell engineers have managed this? Most likely NO...:rolleyes:
     
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  4. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 what is quality control?

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    Most likely the reputable dell engineers who know what they are doing (or compal engineers) resigned from their jobs due to self respect when alienware 13/15/17 will be BGA only.
     
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  5. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    Should be exciting to see the functionality of new bios updates to AW15 og17R2 by Dell engineers... Maybe a new bios allows all hardware becomes even hotter with an even poorer fan profile. This is poorly workmanship. Seems this is beginning to be a farce...
     
  6. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    LOL nobody "resigns due to self-respect." Given the current economy and job market, nobody with any amount of self-respect gives up a perfectly good job because of a few enthusiasts in a tech forum or some similarly stupid reason. If it did indeed happen, more than likely they were laid off or reassigned when Dell went private.
     
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  7. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    I think Notebookcheck.net should test AW15 and 17R2 all over again. They had probably got the same result with throttled processor down to 0.8-2.8ghz or/and battery discharges.
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  8. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox Undefiled BGA-Hating Elitist

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    You know you're right on this... that would be a great example of cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's very difficult to understand, but some people actually think the direction things are headed is a good thing. Otherwise, nobody would be buying thin and light laptops with BGA components. It should come as no surprise that some of us hate it. When it comes to taking home the bacon you just suck it up, put your head down, and do whatever you need to do... like it, or not.
     
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  9. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    The difference between a socket laptop processor you can overclock in a thick laptop vs the new modern Intel BGA processor intended for thin laptop's in Cinebench R15...The numbers speak for themselves:p
    Skjermbilde (872).png Socket laptop processor vs a whole bunch BGA garbage upload_2015-5-9_7-18-40.png
     
  10. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    The only people who like BGA are the ones who have been convinced that thin and light laptops aren't possible otherwise (a socket isn't so large to make that statement accurate), the ones who have no idea the compromise that comes with them, and finally those that benefit financially from the change. Intel can now sell garbage silicon and blame the throttle on TDP limits that manufacturers wanted. It's a mass brainwashing campaign to give Intel even deeper pockets and there's nothing that is going to stop their domination. AMD can toss all the cores they want into a desktop Zen chip but not so much in the laptop space which means Intel remains king.
     
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