BGA Venting Thread ;)

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by FredSRichardson, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yup, I don't worry too much about a laptop's keyboard / trackpad as I use an external 99% of the time - they are more robust and dependable, plus clean unused keyboard / trackpad makes resale value higher, plus if I don't use them I don't wear them out or spill liquid on them and need to replace them.

    I do prefer a great display though, as I use it even with external displays attached.
     
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    Notebookbackbreaker Notebook Geek

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    Seems like an industry paradigm really: Toss in top specs but make it BGA. The power hungry customer will come back in a couple of years later to take a big scoop of this foul smelling poop, with a grin on his face being the only solace, to this industry which is degrading at a never before seen pace, they're dropping faster than anyone can give chase.

    pfft. Thanks for making me type all that, MSI.
     
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    NB_Neenja Notebook Consultant

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    If you don't mind my asking, what laptop did you choose. Don't see one in your sig.
     
  4. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOK's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Remember laptops with full BGA package will and can cost the same as laptops with LGA/MXM. And when the normal laptops is gone, today’s/tomorrow’s Jokes will all be expensive junk. Spend all your money on this expensive soldered mess and can’t afford the extended warranty (you spent all money on the notebook and yeah it will die before you know it) this will before or later force push people over on Desktops. Hope this will come as a hammer in the notebook manufacturers junk makers face. Not all will accept planned obsolescence!
     
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    Oh, you did the trade up program, that makes sense. The GT76 006 config looks like its pretty close in price and specs but then you lose the MXM slot so its not really a better deal.
     
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  6. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It's not at all "close" in price, the MSRP - what you trade-in against - for the GT76 Titan DT-006 is $4199:
    https://www.cnet.com/products/msi-g...-9900k-64-gb-ram-512-gb-2x-ssd-plus-1-tb-hdd/

    The MSRP for the GT75 Titan-013 is $3399, or $800 less:
    https://www.cnet.com/products/msi-gt75-titan-013-17-3-core-i9-8950hk-16-gb-ram-256-gb-ssd/

    The prices I was told was $1000-$1500 more MSRP for the GT76 vs the GT75's...there were no model numbers or online info for the GT76 when I needed to decide.

    I would have still decided for the GT75 knowing what I know now about the GT76, even more so now.
     
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    NB_Neenja Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah, unfortunately BGA laptops will be just as expensive as mainstream LGA laptops were. And new LGA laptops are going to be crazy expensive, because they will be a niche product aimed at high-end consumers. LGA laptops will lose economy of scale. :(
     
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    Whoops, I meant the DT-090 config which I saw on Provantage for around $3500 (not sure about MSRP but it may be $3599 or so). Seemed to be the lowest priced and reasonably specced configuration. I mean, what gamer really needs 64GB of RAM?
     
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    Papusan JOKEBOOK's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Somewhat wrong. LGA/MXM laptops haven’t been much more expensive vs. so called high end BGA Junk. I paid less vs. the soldered high end Aw tragedy 2015/16. And I’m on my 3rd upgrade on Cpu (6700K-7700K-8700K-9900K)@Falkentyne @Mr. Fox Sell old chips then upgrade. With soldered on you’re screwed with what you got. You could of course upgrade in 2015 with a MB upgrade from 6700Hq to the 6820Hk. But mhhhe (puke) not a massive upgrade. Afterwards Dead End!

    Edit. Now even more screwed but with soldered ram and WiFi on top.
     
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    The prices seem fluid, it's already changed on that CNET page, here's the cached version:
    https://webcache.googleusercontent....-ssd-plus-1-tb-hdd/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
    GT76 DR-006 4199 price.JPG
    Well that's top spec 2080 GT75 Titan-013 vs top spec 2080 GT76 DT-006, options are a bit different, but same idea.

    The GT76 DT-090 is a different CPU and screen, and it's MSRP is about $4,120:
    http://us.directdial.com/GT76DT090.html

    The GT76 would have been about $1000 more MSRP (+premium of $50-$100 for new vs old stock) for trade-in compared to the GT75 Titan-013.
     
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