BGA Venting Thread ;)

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by FredSRichardson, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. Tanner@XoticPC

    Tanner@XoticPC Company Representative

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    Agreed. I've had quite a few people actually ask about low end i3/Ryzen 3 systems, while a small niche, I think they'd sell decently if there were a few out there.
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The only issue being small niche and cheaper product don't normally go together due to design costs.

    However I won't argue that more choice would be a bad thing.

    It will be interesting to see what ryzen 2xxx will bring in clock gains and efficiency.
     
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    Tanner@XoticPC Company Representative

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    I'm guilty of that type of wishful thinking a lot, and hoping that some solution arrives, like a more modular construction method.
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'd love to see it but to be fair I am not sure two desktop notebook lines can easily be supported.
     
  5. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Base clocks listed there of course, you could call a 7700 a desktop chip 3.6ghz using that logic.
     
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  7. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Virtuoso

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    7700K base clocks are 4.2 ghz, is it not?
    Regardless, that's still....EXTREMELY low.
     
  8. bennyg

    bennyg Notebook Deity

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    It makes a big difference being at Intel's/motherboard maker's mercy of turbo power limits though. Some non-K coffee lake Z370 implementations are locked to the Intel minimum 8 second turbo duration... If that happens in mobile too we are going to see some real sluggish HQs this year.

    It comes down to marketing ethics vs pushing the envelope.

    Best case spec marketing misleads consumers. "up to X hours" battery life cons buyers every single day who expect that in regular use. Turboboost CPUs are sold everywhere as "up to Y.Z GHz" which I suppose is at least attainable by the user under normal working conditions (unlike the degraded experience endured when hypermiling a battery to achieve the claim)

    At the flip side though, "base clock" is NOT a guaranteed minimum since there are many examples of throttlebooks where by design (or failure of) chips can't even maintain their base speed over the long term
     
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  9. Papusan

    Papusan BGABOOKS = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    And where did you get this number from?o_O Out of the air?
    Guaranteed minimum maybe 799MHz ? Or even lower?
     
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  10. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Virtuoso

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    You guys got the term throttlebook from me :) Glad I'm a little liked around here :)
     
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