BGA Venting Thread ;)

Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by FredSRichardson, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Probably even what they use it for. OCing doesn't always make itself apparent in gaming or low CPU use applications.
     
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    they simply dont have a usage that slows computer down so much to see difference or notice it. i remember my firefox tabs exceed over 3000 and its hella slow. partially it was software but with faster cpu it is a lot snappier and quicker.
     
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    I know I see a difference with large DB operations too, but not much in day to day. That said I don't like having a lot of tabs open at once, so I haven't really tried it out with a lot.
     
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    With lighter tasks you are usually limited by storage performance.
     
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    once you have optane its limited by software and user efficiency
     
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    Those will always be the main bottlenecks going forward :)
     
  7. ole!!!

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    bga TDP power limit, these people are buying into their lies, silly silly consumers.
     
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    That's people just not understanding base clock vs turbo. "Peak marketing" is nothing new and its not going anywhere. The changes Intel have made with CFL in not advertising per-core turbo will not change anything.


    All the successfully entrenched evil in the world relies on a perfect circle of blameshifting:

    Consumers deny responsibility for bad choices by saying retailers and manufacturers don't advertise honestly

    Retailers deny responsibility saying consumers don't research their needs, so choose badly, and then complain; and they also just advertise what the manufacturer tells them to.

    Manufacturers deny responsibility saying its the retailers job to interface with individual consumers and inform and help them choose the right product
     
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    when theres many parties involved, usually a good consumer will need to do as much research as possible for best outcome, prepare for the worst hope for the best mindset. when multiple incompetent parties are involved, disaster bound to happen and consumer is strictly relying on luck and hoping for the best while prepared none.

    however in all of this, i would say intel is the worst by limiting chip with a TDP otherwise would not honor defects or returns from OEM/ODM if they do not follow intel's specified design, which intel get to have controls over their own product. this is no longer my product, I get to do what i want, it becomes my product, intel/OEM decides what I can do with it.

    imagine you bought a 18" extra large pizza with 8 slices and they tell you, you could only eat a slice per day.
     
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    In the exact same way, would you expect a car manufacturer to 100% honour the warranty on a car engine without asking any questions, if you chipped it or say increased the turbo pressure from the base level? Or is the argument that you should be able to do what you want with the CPU/engine/pizza, but if you push it to the point of failure or causing MB failure then you wouldn't specifically expect Intel to honour the warranty (directly or indirectly)?
     
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