AX or just go Ethernet?

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  1. TheReciever

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    Good Morning Ladies and Gents,

    I currently have 3 laptops.

    Alienware 17 R1
    Alienware 13 R3
    Lenovo T440p

    Over time I have determined that I use the 17 R1 and t440p significantly more than my 13 R3, in fact I almost dont use it sadly lol.

    I have my main desk which most of my machine lay, but I also have a exercise bike with a small desktop in place of handlebars you may see on most. I have installed the AX1650 in my 13 R3 and 17 R1 but before going forward please consider this.

    If I can eliminate the need for the 13 R3 I would like to do so, I play Monster Hunter: World while riding the bicycle for an hour or two each night. Steam streaming works but with my current Archer C50 router which is on the other side of the house it works rather poorly.

    So I was considering getting an AX / Wifi 6 router, but they are quite expensive for me. I was looking at the AX50 router but the listing seems to have been removed from Amazon.

    The other option I had been considering was an AC travel router, with Gigabit ports so I can connect the two machines, they be would less than a meter apart in total, and just get an AX router when more options are made available in the market later.

    Also, this router would be installed in my bedroom where the machines are present, and bridging the network wirelessly. I only get 6MB/s down and 1/MB up, so changing the main router for speed wouldnt make much sense for me, but I do stream Plex to my local devices and would like to make use of Steam streaming so I can sell my 13 R3, a nice machine and I dont want to sell it but I dont use it and cant justify having it lol.

    I can probably get the AX1650 installed into the T440p after having found a modded sBIOS first to remove the WLAN whitelist so it can use the better WLAN card as well.

    Do you guys have any insights / thoughts?

    Thanks!
     
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    AX won’t really help improve your situation that much, at beat it will give you anywhere from 5 to at most 20%, closer to like 10%-15% greater throughput on 5Ghz but signal edge will be similar as AC, maybe a little better. To top it off current AC routers are half baked with missing features and have still have stability issues, it will be a while before kinks are worked out, and you will be getting ripped off price wise for basically a glorified AC+ router. Even if some features can be added in updates there’s no garuntee they will be added as promised or perform as expected, kinda like how Broadcom based Asus and Netgear routers got MU-MIMO in an update for Wave 2 AC devices and it was so bad it caused at times heavy performance loss. It took a new chipset to fix it. If you are really a big tech enthusiast and don’t mind the cost and issues go ahead with current gen AX routers.

    Wait for more mature AX routers, by then prices will also be a little more sane, if you want to be more practical. That’s my two cents as an actual beta tester for networking gear.
     
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    So then, do you think just getting another router for my bedroom would be ideal? I dont mind going the AC route, just trying to reduce the noise and improve steam streaming.

    Not trying to increase the devices throughput outside of my room, just my room and the devices that are held there. I dont even mind using ethernet for the machines in there, but if I am doing that I would like to have wireless AP there bridged to the Router that brings in the internet.
     
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    Yeah you could get an extender or a wired AP. Not sure you need a full fledged second router unless the prices are low.

    If looking for a secondary router, an Asus AC68U or the same hardware and performance in a cheaper package the AC66UB1 are good choices or an R7000 for the Netgear equivalent. I’d go for the AC66UB1
     
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    It would just make things a bit easier as I do have issues with signal strength which does prop its head up during Plex streaming, I always had issue with powerline solutions

    My budget is around 150 for a decent router.
     
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    Then go for the AC66UB1 it’s just a repackaged AC68U but cheaper and both of those are known for their excellent range beating even some newer gen units in that aspect. The R7800 is a slight step up range wise but would/may be just at the edge of your budget.

    The AC66UB1 is the best bang for the buck of the ones I mentioned but MAKE SURE it’s the B1 Stepping! The older AC66U is not as good that’s why.
     
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    Im not really concerned with range as my room is quite small, but it only need enough to be able to bridge to my Archer C50

    More concerned with realistic throughput speeds from machine to machine for streaming.

    The AC66UB1 doesnt look half bad though
     
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    It’s definitely better than the C50 for sure, and throughout is pretty good actually, despite being a three stream unit, it’s competitive with some higher end four stream routers . Also it has Merlin firmware support so it’s a great pick.
     
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    The C50 doesnt limit the internet at all so as long as I can bridge the networks Ill keep the faster one for myself, which router would be good for trying to get a bit more out of my AX cards? I know its just like an AC9260 without a the proper AX router but it would be nice for uhm, science.

    AC66UB1 still your recommendation?
     
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    Yep.

    If you really want an HT160 capable ac router then the Qualcomm chipset based, Netgear R7800 or the Synology equivalent with same hardware, the RT2600ac, but they cost like 60-70% more.

    Newer AX routers won’t be out till around CES2020 or after, if you want full featured AX routers. And for AX I would definitely pick a Qualcomm based router.
     
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