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  1. guv94cy

    guv94cy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey there, sorry for the LATE reply. I've been on .315 since my last post here, cos I couldn't deal with it dying all the time. There has been no such problems on .315 but I sure do miss being able to undervolt :( Question, have you ever done a clean install of Windows on your Zephyrus? If so, do you install the drivers on the Asus website first, or you let Windows Update install the drivers? Maybe it's a driver compatibility issue with .314 :(
     
  2. Wintermute

    Wintermute Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, at least 2-3 times or so.
    Except for the ones like wireless and video drivers (for which I take the ones from official intel/nvidia sites), I always pick drivers from Asus gm501gs support page and I'd suggest you do so. Never let windows install them, cause they are often older version which gets replaced or installed in parallel with others, causing messes (it happened to me more than once).
     
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    guv94cy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I too install only the drivers on Asus' website (except the WiFi, Bluetooth, Intel GPU and Nvidia GPU, I download the latest ones from their respective websites, is that ok?), I just wanted to make sure what other users were doing and my way was ok. At the first few steps of setting up the Windows, I create an offline account and I do not connect to any WiFi network so that the Windows Update doesn't do it's thing. When I finally reach the destop, I then install all the drivers myself, and then connect to the network. It still finds a few drivers to install/update. I tried so many scenarios but I couldn't solve the issue of device not being able to wake up after the display timeout on .314 BIOS, so I've since been back on .315 for stability :/ I would very much love to go back to .314 again :'(
     
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    Very strange. Since it has never happened to me, I can't suggest you anything apart from trying to downgrade again to .314 and after windows is installed check for all suspension/hybernation/fast boot options and disable all, including the ones I said earlier and also disable "sysmain" windows service. Usually that problem is caused by hidden hybernation-like features.
     
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    So I've been able to isolate the root of the problem. I tried a few scenarios and different drivers. I reverted back to .314. Hibernation etc all disabled, so is the SysMain Windows service. Then:

    Firtst I enabled "Optimus Mode" on ROG Gaming Center.

    After the restart, I DDU'd both the Intel and Nvidia drivers.

    Installed the Intel driver found on Asus' website (V25.20.100.6446) and disabled the GTX 1070 before drivers were automatically installed. Upon testing, the laptop was ABLE TO WAKE UP FROM A TURNED OFF DISPLAY IDLE state, and I was able to replicate this result numerous times.

    Then the Nvidia driver found on Asus' website was installed (V25.21.14.1735 / 417.35). The problem came back.

    Updated to the latest Nvidia driver using Geforce Experience (by doing an Express Installation), the problem still persists.

    Then DDU'd again, and this time, I let Windows Update install a driver, and the one installed was V24.21.13.9924 / 399.24. The problem still persists, letting alone the fact that the driver is so old that some games don't even start.

    ++++Also to mention, when I was playing AC Valhalla hardcore 2 days ago, in Discrete Graphics mode, the same kind of "not being able to wake up from a turned off display after the screen lock" issue showed itself as well (before it would usually happen in Optimus mode, not the Discrete GPU mode). I would play for a few hours, then close the game and lock the display and leave the room. When I came back, I couldn't wake the laptop, but this time, HDD indicator LED was blinking normally, and I was able to change the brightness of the keyboard backlight using the hotkeys, and I could hear the Device Plugged In sounds when I inserted a USB stick and the display is 100% turned off during this time, can not wake up (Usually when this problem happened in Optimus Mode, I couldn't do these, the device would be totally frozen while fans still spinning and absolutely no life in HDD indicator LED)

    So the main take is, the GTX 1070 is the culprit. Do any of these that I mentioned look like a hardware problem to anyone? Cos I tried so many drivers that I am very inclined to say it is not a software/driver issue now :( The device is already out of the warranty and I do not know if I can find anyone in Cyprus authorised by Asus to look into this. Any suggestions?
     
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    Tyrone_999 Newbie

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    I see a couple of people have been asking for older bios versions, especially since undervolting has become impossible on the latest version and Asus has wiped anything pre 314 from the internet.

    v307: https://www.mediafire.com/file/etx2cjkswlya05x/GM501GSAS307.zip/file
    v308: https://www.mediafire.com/file/zea5moz4m22k0j2/GM501GSAS308.zip/file
    v310: https://www.mediafire.com/file/ck3hq1blriqwlkl/GM501GSAS310.zip/file
    v313: https://www.mediafire.com/file/to6wm0z6pu9u433/GM501GSAS313.zip/file

    I believe that 313 is the last version before the undervolting restriction was put in, it's the one i'm currently using myself without any issues.
    Downgrading from 314 or 315 is easy enough, same process as always, i came from 315 myself.
     
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  7. guv94cy

    guv94cy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi there. The BIOS version that takes away undervolting is .315. Undervolting via ThrottleStop etc is available to me when I use the .314 version. But, I never had these older BIOS files (I was only able to obtain what is available on Asus' website atm, and it's only .314 and .315 now). Are these files of your own archive? I mean, did you download these yourself from the Asus website over the years, or obtained them elsewhere? I'm tempted to try out these to see whether my BIOS files were iffy or not, but again, with every BIOS update procedure, I'm anxious about bricking lol. Are you absolutely certain they are good to go/untampered? I had the .313 ZIP file, and wanted to have a quick comparison: all three of the versions I have at hand (.313, .314, .315) all have the "-AS" suffix at the end of their names, but yours do not (https://imgur.com/a/soqaEOo). Just wanted to make sure, is this "-AS" suffix a requirement for the BIOS to recognise the file as a correct BIOS file?
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    Tyrone_999 Newbie

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    Yeah i always make my own driver archives by pulling everything from the manufacturer's website because you can't trust them to consistently host all versions.
    I think i grabbed most of these about a year ago from Asus's website, they're all the original .zip files.
    Not sure what's up with that naming inconsistency though, i've recently used that 313.zip to flash my own bios, if i run Aida64 and Cpu-Z on my laptop it shows up with that exact name as well.
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    guv94cy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ah cool. Thanks for the reply, man! I might try your files out soon. After the last loooong post that I made here, I went back to .315, losing undervolting but ULTIMATELY gaining back the system stability. So you used the .313 file as it came out of the ZIP, without the -AS suffix in the name and flashing went fine ha? Just wanted to confirm.

    Edit: Please disregard the question. It was written under bricking anxiety. I mean you clearly said above that it works lol. Will try it out myself soon
     
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    guv94cy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys. I've just noticed on Asus' support page for our Zephyrus M that there's a new BIOS version, .317. Has anyone updated to this, manually or automatically? Any impressions? Is undervolting back? Or is this just a minor update that enables TPM and stuff by default for Windows 11?

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