ASUS Zenbook UX310UQ - Does the M.2 slot support PCIe SSD?

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  1. siutoto

    siutoto Notebook Enthusiast

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    Merry Christmas! Did some searches from the internet and found someone using AIDA64 confirmed that UX410 PCIe controller is connected to the south bridge and can only support up to PCIe 2.0 x 4.

    I also used AIDA64 confirmed myself, UX310 can only support up to PCIe 2.0 x 4 as well. So the maximum speed our any NVMe SSD will be limited to below 2GB/s......too bad.
     
  2. bls7

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    Hi all,
    think about purcashe this laptop, and hear about slow ssd what to do? after purchase replace with samsung ssd? pro series? what you advice?

    thanks
     
  3. JaneZen

    JaneZen Newbie

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    I enjoyed reading about your experiences. I want to buy a UX430UQ and upgrade its Sandisk SATA3 SSD to Samsung 960 PRO M.2.

    But now I understand that you dealed with some issues. So what is the excat reason for why your 950PRO/Intel 600p only reached about 15xx/9xx MB/s? Is it because the i7-7500U (or likewise, but 7th Generation Kaby Lake CPU) only has 12 lanes of PCI-E? Or is it because the motherboard only supports PCI-E 3 x2 bus?

    I'd like to know which one is the reason for, so I can decide on what to do: wait for a new line of zenbooks to be released (with a new motherboard) or wait for a new generation of CPUs?

    And overall, do you feel any improvement in your laptop performance with the M.2 SSDs regarding the SATA SSDs?

    Thanks guys!
     
  4. siutoto

    siutoto Notebook Enthusiast

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    With the limitation that both UX310/UX410 can only achieve <2GB/s for read and write, it doesn't make sense to buy a premium SSD like 960PRO. If budget allows, buy a 950PRO, otherwise go for a Intel 600P.

    In the real life usage test by Tom's hardware, loading time for word and excel between these 2 ssd are less than one second. Since I tried both drive, I can confirm 950PRO can startup Windows 10 faster than Intel 600P.
     
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    siutoto Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry I didn't try to further confirm the reason behind, as the combination of 950PRO and 850EVO is fast enough to all my needs and I am very happy about it. I believe it was the M.B that could only support PCIe 2.0 and limiting the speed of the NVME ssd.

    In terms of change from SATAIII to NVME, I personally think it was a big improvement.......because the OEM Sandisk was not even a top of line SATAIII.

    UX430UQ is a new model and if you search the internet, you can see the M.B is completely different from the 310/410. New model with 7th generation Intel CPU should support PCIe 3.0 x4, but I guess you will have find it out yourself.......
     
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    Wow Bro, thanks for your sharing! But I gotta ask you last question: What are the models of each? Where did you find out that the UX430UQ has a newer model of Motherboard in relation to the UX410/310UQ? As far as I could find info, it seemed like they all share the same Motherboard or what... Please enlighten me :D
     
  7. Zilbell

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    Hey guys,

    In my research I found this forum to be very helpful although at the time couldn't find the exact answer that I needed so I'll report my results:

    I bought the Ultrabook ASUS Zenbook UX310UQ (i7-7500U, 1T HDD, 12GB DDR4, GTX 940MX).
    Basically, my question was if the M.2 port por would be compatible with the new M.2 Samsung 960 EVO Series - 250GB PCIe NVMe, so I replaced the 1T HDD with the M.2 and, to my great surprise, it works perfectly, I even boot from this drive.

    Also complemented it with a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III for the rest of the stuff. (I only bought this disk just in case the other one was not compatible, if not, maybe a bigger M.2 would be enough and much faster)

    As previously said, the performance of the M.2 with PCIe NVMe doesn't reach its full potencial of "3.6 Gb/s", although it is much better than the SATA III, maybe 2x or 3x. I get lectures up to 1.3 Gb/s which is not bad at all compared with the HDD that had lectures under 0.1 Gb/s.
     
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  8. siutoto

    siutoto Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you mean 1.3GB/s? if I am not wrong, 1GB roughly equal to 8Gb. There was one post here reported that his 960PRO could achieve about 1800MB/s for both read/write, so your reported 1.3GB/s was a bit low and I am surprised that you couldn't get 1500MB/s as per the specification. Did you fresh install your Windows 10?

    It is always better to have a 2nd drive rather one large drive......if you do your system and regular backups to 850EVO, you can always restore easily when disaster happens. For your information, it only takes me about 3-4 minutes to backup my whole system from 950PRO to 850EVO, isn't it nice?!
     
  9. Zilbell

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    Sorry siutoto, I meant 1.3 GB/s or 1300 MB/s., a bit more. It's a bit lower than expected, my test was not with a fresh install, but almost, maybe that's why it's 200 MB/s lower.

    Still very happy with the results, the test I did before with the HDD was 120/70 MB/s for read/write. It was more than a substantial increase! Nice!
     
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    Hey Guys,
    Just to share,
    ASUS Zenbook UX410UQ (i7-7500U, 500GB 960Evo and 500 850Evo, 16GB DDR4).
    My 960Evo can reached 1850Read/1650Write. I can see the NVME in my Bios after install Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (Intel® RST) RAID Driver. This is a beautiful machine for the price.
    Thank you Siutoto, for your contribution.
     
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