*** ASUS ZenBook Pro UX550 Owner's Lounge ***

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  1. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    From the best of my knowledge coil whine is not a "solvable" issue unless you consider headphones as a possible solution. Some units will be a bit better than others, it is like winning the lottery at times.

    No smaller adapter that I am aware of at this time.
     
  2. RnBeer

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    I just got hold of the Asus Zenbook Pro 15 UX580GE-E2005T. So far, no issues.

    My only comments are:

    1) I was "forced" to buy the 4K model as the FHD variants here are not touchscreens. It is not that I use the function too much, but, moving from my UX550VE to UX580GE should be an "upgrade".

    2) Disappointed that the overall finish of UX550VE Royal Blue definitely looks more stunning than the new UX580's Deep Dive Blue. The concentric circles effect is just really nice on brushed finish of the UX550 compared the semi-glossy UX580.

    3) the Screenpad in extended mode AND windows taskbar in auto-hide in desktop mode would cause the main screen to display a horizontal flickering line at the bottom. Solved by disabling taskbar auto-hide. Hope someone tries this and confirm.
     
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  3. Jolga77

    Jolga77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks RnBeer for the info. I just ordered a UX550GE-XB71T from HIDEvolution. Pretty well bone stock, except for the top pasting option. I live in the tropics and it gets hot here during the long summer. We don't need AC on because we are ocean view, but the Zenbook does! I will chime in with my first impressions as I soon as I get it.
    These great Zenbook Pros are misunderstood and underappreciated, we have to spread the good word.:bigsmile:

    I have been reading countless horror stories about top of the line Dells and Lenovos, so its good to know, that for 3 the next years, HIDEvolution has my back, plus I don't have to look at an old school, conservative, black slab. :no:
     
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  4. Jolga77

    Jolga77 Notebook Enthusiast

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    As previously promised (threatened???) here is my extremely biased, unprofessional, personal review of my 5 day old Asus Zenbook Pro UX550GE.


    As usual, I tried to live for a day or 2 with the OEM install of Windows 10 but the incessant updates, bloatware and a major Adobe Flash Problem which was was caused by one of the 3 security updates in the Fall Creators Edition. I need Flash for my part time internet teaching job. Yes, flash is old and almost dead, but some sites still use it. The solution was to do a clean install of windows 10 and kill windows update forever.


    As many of you surely know, Microsoft has been making it more and more difficult to shut down windows update. So I had to get creative with this install.


    First caveat: the windows media creation tool has a bug (over 6 months now, still no fix) which stops it from creating a bootable usb. The workaround is to D/L the ISO and make a bootable USB with good old, reliable Rufus.


    Now ready for the install. The first thing to do (IF LIKE ME YOU DON'T WANT F*****G WINDOWS UPDATE MESSING UP YOUR COMPUTER) IS TO TURN OFF YOUR ROUTER.


    Do the install as normal. I had mouse problems, it was jumping all over the place (Kensington Orbital) and causing rapid ghost touches on the 4k touch screen. I plugged in an el cheapo HP mouse and it settled down to an acceptable level so I could at least proceed.


    After shutting up annoying Cortana and getting the desktop, I Immediately ran StopWinUpdates_v2.5 (not sure I can put links here, so just Google it) It has about 12 Registry Entries and mods to disable the update service for good.


    Now you can turn your router back on. Now if you're a Newb, don't panic: you will have about 27 drivers that are missing or need updating. Plus many features will not work. Also I didn't have any internet. I grabbed another computer went to the Asus site and got the Intel wireless driver, and in about 2 minutes the net was back up. By the way, that Intel AC 9560 wireless is a stable performance monster! I have a 50 mbps fibre optic connection and it gave me 68 mb/s bursts in Qbitorrent. A far cry from the infamous Killer wifi chips which work on some machines and not on others. (Dell I’m looking at You!!!)


    Next, I grabbed Iobit Free Driver Booster and it fixed almost all of my driver problems. The only 2 remaining issues were: my keyboard was not lighting up. This was fixed by ATKPackage_Win10_64_VER2020 from Asus.


    The next issue was my brightness Fn controls were not working so went to the Intel site and got the latest Graphics 630 drivers. I installed the Intel Driver and Support Assistant to keep it up to date. The brightness controls now function perfectly.


    A quick note about Windows update: the reg hack batch files worked to great degree but not completely. Yes, the updater is now dead, however, my update history showed 2 minor Kbs and 1 of the 3 Flash security updates. My theory is that microsoft slipped them into the iso so they were installed like a Trojan! Pretty sneaky! But I had the last laugh …. No updates for you!!!! My win is 98% update free.


    I then grabbed Iobit uninstaller and took out the bloatware. Ran disk clean for the installer packages etc.


    Now, finally to the notebook itself. Frankly …. It is so great it's scary! What do I mean by this.? In my 30 years of computing, (yikes since Windows 3.0) I have never seen anything like it. It so good that I am expecting something to go wrong…. Too good to be true!!! But it is!


    I ordered it with the deluxe pasting packing from HIDevolution because, as you know, slim beautiful, powerful and light means hot hot hot!


    I am retired in a hot Mexican beach city, so it's even more important for me. You have seen tons of heat benchmark reviews, so I won't bore you with a rehash.


    I will, however, give you some real life, seat of the pants examples: Every morning we do Tai chi and QUi Gong on our Oceanfront balcony. I got up at 5 A.M. and did some fairly heavy computing for 2 hours configuring, scanning, and a huge 50 GB copied onto a USB. I picked up the machine to move it out to the balcony and IT WAS ONLY WARM TO THE TOUCH! I could have carried it a mile! Moreover, every day I put my hand, several times, on what I call the dashboard, that area between the screen and the keyboard. Regardless of what I do, it only gets warm… never hot! I gave my wife a new HP Spectre 13.3 i7. She never uses it for more than surfing, email and watching videos. Even then, you don't want to put your hand on the dashboard for more than a second.


    This thing is blazingly fast.! I use Macrium Free for all my image file backups. It will do a 20gb backup to a Lacie Rugged 7200 RPM ext drive (3.0 usb) at 1400 mbs!!! In less than 2 minutes!!! While it's doing that can you open 20 Firefox tabs and it will not miss a beat. You don't even know its running a High Speed backup in the background.


    Now to the 4k Screen. Apple, please take your Rectum Display and shove it! This is the best combination of perfect colours, brightness, resolution, skin tones and perfect blacks that I have ever seen. Video and Photography Pros must at least, consider this machine. Ditch the overpriced, over-hyped CrApple Pro! I am not a professional user, but I do have 2 of the finest 4k TVS available to compare it with: A Sony Bravia 900EX, (48 inch for the bedroom). I calibrated it using Quantum Apotheosis’ settings. And my pride and joy, a 58 inch Panasonic Viera Pro Hdr TV Tc58Ex750X (sorry not available in US, only Canada & Mexico). No calibration needed, the OEM engineers did a great job. There are 26 configuration buttons available though if you are obsessive about that! The picture is absolutely mindblowing and the near perfect blacks will make you forget about the problem riddled LG Oleds. All this to say, I am a Picture Quality Compulsive Obsessive. So if it impresses me, then you know its not BS.


    Last example: there is a demo from Quantum Apotheosis (YouTube) called AUO Demo| Ep.388: Traditional Chinese Dance (google it) It is not even in 4k, just enhanced HD 1080p. The first day I got my Zenbook I watched it and my eyes couldn't believe what I was seeing. I asked my wife to put on the Sony Noise Canceling BT phones and watch it. She didn't want, “I don't have time for that” she said, “I'm busy!” She is not into computers or high end 4k tvs, they are just a means to an end for her. I didn't answer, but quickly put the phones on her ears, sat her down and put the phones on her. Suddenly she stopped complaining, all I could hear was Wow, wow, wow!!! She actually sat still for the whole thing! When it was over she said, “absolutely amazing!!” Coming from her that is nothing short of a miracle!


    Let's talk about Harmon Kardon. They used to be a guarantee of high quality but now they are very hit or miss, depending on the model and manufacturer. My wife's HP Harmon Kardon Spectre 13.3 speakers sound like they were designed by Minnie Mouse… they are so tinny! The volume has to be run on Max all the time too.


    Why in heck have reviewers not latched on to this next one? Probably too enthralled by the gimmicky touchpad screen option. The Zenbook Pros speakers are absolutely a joy to listen too. No distortion on the highs, mids are great and surprisingly they actually have some base to round out the experience. I don't know who designed the DAC but I have a suspicion that this is what makes the difference, not Harmon Kardon. Using BT headphones, the sound is as good as my ZTE Axon 7 Smartphone, which has the supposedly great, Dolby Atmos!


    Ok, so, at this point, you are thinking this review is a load of BS. This guy is a Senior Asus Fanboi! He has nothing bad to say about the Zenbook.


    Ok if you forced me… here we go. I disabled the touchscreen (in device manager) right from the get go! Are you kidding, a touchscreen on a 15.6 inch, 4.2 lb Notebook!!! Added weight and expense for something no one will ever use! Its just a features pissing contest that OEMS are involved in. I am sure the engineers cringed when the marketers forced them to accept this design obligation. You can use it like a tablet on the sofa … you say? You can't! it's a locked clam-shell, not a convertible. If you persist, then I will give you an example, try sitting on your sofa with with a big, heavy, Great Dane on your lap and let me know how that goes!


    Next, the illuminated keyboard has 3 illumination levels, low (letters? What letters?) medium (I'm starting to see them) and high (ah! Now I can see them). Also the letters could have been a brighter white or a flashy yellow. The illumination on high is sufficient but could be better. My wife’s Spectre has great keyboard illumination and differentiation.


    Some of you are surely balking at the price, but believe me, if you have the means, this notebook is worth every penny. It puts the CrApple Pro Series to shame! If you want to safeguard your investment, buy it from a reputable reseller such as HIDevolution (I have no personal connection to them, just a happy customer) or others. Their techs will apply paste to protect the internals from heat degradation and do the burn in, if it doesn't POST they will grab another BEFORE sending it to you. The factory only pulls one out of many units to do a test, so when you buy from them, it is basically a lottery. You will minimize that nervous feeling when you press on the power button for the first time.


    It might be wise to take the 3 or 4 year warranty ( I took 3) to protect your substantial investment. This is not a $500 I'll-buy-another-one-if- this-breaks notebook!


    Oh, and last downside to this computer. This notebook is like owning your first BMW, after, all other cars feel good, but nothing like a BMW. You will be spoiled for life after experiencing this level of device and locked into only the best machine$. After tasting caviar how can you eat spam?


    If you have read this epic length review right to the end, you definitely have no idea what good writing is or are a total masochist :)


    Now go out and buy one of these puppies ! If it's not the way I said it was, then please feel free to denounce me in this forum, call me an idiot and a BSer.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2018
  5. FYLin21

    FYLin21 Newbie

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    Hi all,

    Just got the UX550GE yesterday. I'll mainly be using it for photo and video editing with some casual gaming. However, I've noticed right out of the box gaming frame rate is terrible at 1080p fullscreen, yet it works fine windowed at the same resolution. If I set my desktop to be 1080p beforehand, it runs fine, but what's the point of doing that otherwise? Then I checked the task manager and it showed that both the integrated and NVIDIA GPU were being used, with integrated graphics having much higher percentage. I get there are issues with thermal throttling on the UX550 but this seems more like a scaling issue above all else.
     
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    Overall, I feel like 4K on the 2018 UX550's is overkill and does more harm than good. It seems more an issue of optimization than a speed bottleneck, but everything is far more fluid with 1080p desktop, just it looks pretty awful due to the sloppy scaling (what's so hard about using nearest-neighbour Intel?). The 1809 Windows 10 update seems to improve the 1080p fullscreen/4K desktop issue considerably, but I still have to tweak my settings a bit lower than if I have 1080p for both desktop and the game. Unfortunately video playback is another issue. I'm having a hard time watching 1080p 60fps videos in fullscreen. Everything seems to work fine with the default Film & TV player, but both PotPlayer and MPC have issues in fullscreen. Unfortunately Film & TV doesn't support MKV files.
     
  7. ruben56

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    Hello FYLin21.

    Do you notice any electrical noises/coil whines at your unit? I would really appreciative if you respond. I want to buy either a zenbook ux550ge or an xps 9570, but I only read and hear bad things everywhere about them, as Jolga77 said. So, do you hear anything from your unit? If yes, is it audible? Can you work on it in a dead silent room? If not, I would be the happiest man ever and would order a zenbook.

    Thanks!
     
  8. FYLin21

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    Sadly there is a substantial amount of coil whine on my unit, which was manufactured in November 2018. I don't know if this is true for all units though. My room isn't dead silent so I don't mind as much, but it can be annoying at times. It literally screams during some operations. The fans also run loud under heavy use (that is, anything that uses the NVIDIA GPU), maybe a bit better than my N550JK though (that thing became a power-hog towards the end my use with it, battery is more or less the same (2.5-3H using Excel and Powerpoint) although the Zenbook seems much better for browsing with around 4.5-5 hours).

    The N550JK I had was pretty good for a multimedia laptop except it had numerous durability issues that left me reluctant to choose ASUS again but the other options out there just didn't seem as appealing and the UX550 was on sale.
     
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    Thanks for answering!

    Do you know where the sound come from? You said: "It literally screams during some operations". This makes me believe that in your case, the sound is coming from the SSD. But when you don't copy or do things with your files which involves using the storage, just scrolling in browser, does it whine? Is the sound present in UEFI/BIOS? I want to know if there is still a motherboard issue due to its design, or the sound can be eliminated by changing the SSD. My previous Zenbook Pro (UX501 with 6700HQ) started to whine after a period of time. Or at least, I couldn't hear the sound in the first 6 months. After noticing it, I couldn't bear it, so I went to asus authorised service and got all my money back. However, I'm still in love with zenbook because of its nice and pretty design, great battery, great performance even if throttling, and so on, and I want to buy a new one.
    Thanks again!
     
  10. FYLin21

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    I can't really recall when the "screaming" occured, but it was basically a louder whine that happens under certain situations (I think it was while installing or uninstalling files but I'll need to check again).

    I'm not sure where the whine comes from, but it whines each time I view an image or browse a folder regardless of location (I use an external SSD for most of my files). On Instagram, the whine happens whenever I type a letter and it loads the search suggestions. It sounds a bit like someone's frying eggs on your laptop but not as loud. It still happens when you go into BIOS and the fans get loud while you're in as well. These things don't really bother me as much as the sloppy performance of 1080p video playback and gaming when the desktop has been set to 4K.
     
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