ASUS VivoBook X202E / S200E / Q200E Owners' Lounge

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  1. Pados75

    Pados75 Newbie

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    I'd also be interested to know if anyone did the upgrade to Windows 10. I've checked on Asus website and the S200E is not in the equipment list for upgrade...
     
  2. maisac

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    I have upgraded to Windows 10. Create a user account was not posssible, some strange error code. When I restarted and pressed f8 repeatedly, it started working.
    To get all the drivers seems not possible, I have read that many has problems with malfunctioning keyboard after upgrade. I do not know as I have my s200e connected to TV. Quite a lot of missing hardware drivers in the device manager, and I do not have a clue about what it is. For my use as a TV computer, it works well with external keyboard anyway.
     
  3. Douglas Barr

    Douglas Barr Newbie

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    Hi @miasac
    How did your install Win 10? When I try I get cannot install on this partition (partition 4 OS) as it gives an error.

    Douglas Barr
     
  4. love_guru

    love_guru Newbie

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    My upgrade to Windows 10 went smoothly by just letting the computer decide for itself when to upgrade. Before that, i attempted to force to upgrade using wuacutl.exe, or downloading the ISO (which worked with my Thinkpad X240), but it ended in error every time. I left it alone for a while, then one day, there's a notification that it's ready. I let it download the installation files and proceed.

    The only one hair in the soup during this experience is that I lost the Samsung touchpad driver, and that's why I visited the site today to look for it and try to see if it will install in Windows 10. The Asus touchpad driver still sucks after all these years. It's even worse on the T100 Chi, while being ok on the T100 TAM.
     
  5. genekellyjr

    genekellyjr Notebook Enthusiast

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    Windows 10/Trackpad Drivers:
    Updated S200E to Windows 10. Minor issue was that after installation the original trackpad drivers were non-functional. I uninstalled them through the Uninstall thing in Windows and downloaded the Windows 8 trackpad drivers from the ASUS site. I only do 2 finger gestures and they work fine. There is an odd lag (1-2 seconds) where the mouse is gone on wake up from sleep, as the trackpad driver seems to disable itself on sleep and re-enable itself on wake up (my thinking for this is I see the icon for the trackpad driver pop into the system tray, and after that the mouse appears and works fine). I don't feel like digging deeper.
    Previously in Windows 8.1 I had to adjust the trackpad driver in the Task Scheduler to not start again on wake up, as it allowed multiple instances and after sleeping it once two were running and conflicted. Only got worse as more appeared with each sleep session. Don't know why that was default configuration, but the reinstall in Windows 10 didn't bring that up again, only the thing I mentioned above.

    Hardware Adjustments:
    I installed a Cruicial BX100 512 GB SSD with no issue. Improved performance greatly. I used the included Acronis program to make an image to clone it. Could also use the built in Windows image creation tool if your drive didn't come with a cloning program, which I found does not offer much over the Windows one - especially in its cut-down state.

    I also redid the thermal paste with the glorious Arctic MX-4 while I was there. If I remember correctly I may have put it on the RAM chips too, as they are somewhat covered by the weird flat thin bit on the heatsink. I might have put in copper spacers to help with the connection though I don't really remember at this point. RAM chips usually do not get hot, especially in this low power, low speed instance - but I could so I did.

    Undervolting:
    As I remember, ThrottleStop has no control over the voltage in the laptop. The Intel XTU has no control over the voltage in the laptop either, or it won't install. I don't remember which for the XTU. In either case, there is no way to undervolt the laptop through software. Sad, almost all Core2Duo and the i7-4700MQ I had both had voltage control through ThrottleStop and/or XTU (for the i7-4700MQ).

    Battery Life and Power Settings:

    I get about 3-4 hours of battery life out of it, erring on the 4 hour side, with the SSD on 80% brightness, or something that is very close to 100% visually. Like 2 ticks down in the "brightness scale" in Windows 8/10. I use the Balanced power plan in Windows. Importantly, make sure that the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Settings in the "advanced power settings" part of the plan are set to 13W TDP for on battery and plugged in. The 8W (forced 1 GHz max) is damn slow. Also disable "Low Power Mode Setting." I think I put those on for battery mode to save power but they just made things abysmally slow.
    The battery claims 15% wear after a year or two of ownership, though I really don't remember when I got it.

    Throttling, Temperatures, and Performance: (i3-3217U, 4GB single channel 1333 MHz RAM)
    The laptop idles at around 47-50C in a 70F room. The fan spins and is mildly audible. It gets a tad warm where the air exits and in the surrounding keyboard area.

    It gets up to 55-65C in a 70F room when web browsing. The fan spins at the same rate.

    Running IntelBurnTest on Standard leads to throttling at about 80 seconds in for no apparent reason in temperatures. It throttles down to 1.4 GHz from 1.8 GHz. The temperatures never breached 90C and hover around 80-85C. After that throttling it stays around 1.4 GHz starts dropping to 1.3 GHz after about 60 more seconds. It keeps bumping up to 1.4 GHz still. During the time where the test is preparing for the next run it reaches 1.8 GHz again but drops back to 1.4-1.3 GHz when the 100% loading occurs. The fan is quite audible in this mode. The machine got a little warmer but not much, ambient is 70F yet.

    After letting it cool down for a bit, Unigine Heaven was run. It got 3.5/89/2.3/6.3 for Avg FPS/Score/Min FPS/Max FPS in that order, presumably targeting 13W. Comparatively, an AMD Z-01 in a Windpad tablet scores 1.9/48/1.4/3.1 while having 1 GHz, dual core CPU that targets 4.5W. An i7-4700MQ's integrated gets 10.8/271/7.1/19.9 with its 45W envelope. The settings were high quality textures, moderate tessellation, x4 AA, and 1366x768 - it can't exactly game well on "high end" settings. As for temperatures and clock speeds, it is all over the place. The GPU never holds its maximum rate of 1 GHz for longer than a few seconds and then sticks around 700 MHz. The CPU tries to stay near 800 MHz after a bit. Temperatures are around 80-85C again with the same fan noise as before. Eventually (a minute or two) the GPU works its way down to 450-500 MHz. Temperatures are always 80-85C, never more. Machine got a little warmer again, but not much. Ambient still 70F.

    The BIOS is on version X202E.206. The computer reports its name as an X202E despite it saying S200E on the bottom and not having Bluetooth, and I assume a 2nd antenna. Maybe I will put the latest on, but I can say that BIOS version does not seem to affect throttling - as this is an older version and with a good thermal paste application the laptop is better behaved than others report.
    Under light load conditions it can happily hold 1.8 GHz to make most simple tasks quick.
     
  6. confused22

    confused22 Newbie

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    So, here is the story.
    I've bought an used x202e on eBay *in perfect condition, not a scratch on it*.
    It came upgraded to Windows 10, but since I wanted to do a clean slate I've cleaned all the partitions and formatted the hard drive. I've also upgraded BIOS from 206 to 210.
    So far so good. Then, I've installed Ubuntu on it, but I thought that it would be a good idea to install Windows 10 again and run it as dual boot.
    Windows 10 rewrote the GRUB so I had to fix that one as well, but I've accidentally erased its boot partition and (of course) it wouldn't boot.
    So I decided to do it again but this time, to do it properly, I wanted to install Windows first and than Ubuntu later.
    Again, I've deleted all the partitions, formatted the HDD and started Windows 10 installation from a pen drive. It went well up to a point, but then it got stuck on "Wait a moment" (or something) screen, and after some time I did a hard reset. After the restart, the installation continued but got stuck again. I did a hard reset once again, but this time laptop wouldn't POST anymore.
    What I get right now is: power led is on, Wi-fi led flashes for a second, HDD starts spinning and then it all stops. The screen is black and I can't enter BIOS or anything.
    I've checked the HDD - works fine, attached an external monitor to see if I'll get something that way - nothing. Tried to boot without HDD - same thing. Tried to boot with a pen drive - no luck.
    The rest of the components are soldered on the motherboard so I can't check if it's memory, processor or BIOS.
    I think that without the memory it should still be able to enter BIOS so it could be either processor or BIOS. Processors almost never dies on the default settings so corrupt BIOS seems most likely (or so I wish to think since it can be replaced. The laptop run on battery the whole time so there is no chance that there was a power surge or something that could fry the components.
    I've tried unplugging the battery, holding power button for 60 seconds, clearing the CMOS, no results.
    I've run out of ideas what to do so any suggestion is welcome.
    Thx!
     
  7. X202E

    X202E Newbie

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    So guys, after my X202E motherboard died, I decided to do some upgrades and I would like to sell it. What I upgraded:
    Motherboard, previous had a Pentium 2117U, new motherboard has a rare Core i5 3317U
    Heatsink, instead of the flat sheet of heat sink it had I found one that had an actual copper pipe that fitted and added some small aluminum heatsinks and AS5 thermal paste. Thanks to that, laptop never throttles or goes past 80*C while intensive tasks (locked at 2.4 GHz)
    HDD, I replaced the 500GB HDD for a 240GB SanDisk SSD, it fast. With the SSD, gaming has improved significantly. I believe the HDD was bottlenecking the CPU because with the SSD games not only load faster but are much smoother and have higher FPS since it doesn't stutter when loading maps.
    I really want to upgrade to Sky Lake based laptop because of the iGPU but first I need to sell this one. It's in fair conditions with minor wear over 3 years. Worst is there a very small chippings, and tocuhpad is somewhat shiny because of use. How much could I expect to sell it for?
     
  8. Bill Griggs

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    Have any you with an X202e downgraded to Windows 7? I've had windows 10 on it for awhile, thinking about going back, not sure how it would do.
     
  9. darkodar

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    I have this laptop Asus Vivobook S200E with i3 3217u 1.8ghz and 4GB ram , here is some problems i have with this laptop:

    1. Procesor throttling to 798mhz and 998mhz if Intel® Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Driver is not installed , only this version fix procesor throttling DPTF_Intel_Z6061082.zip , for Windows 10 , after install this and restart laptop procesor work on 1796mhz great!

    2. Procesor throttling to 798mhz and 998mhz if temerature is 90c + more then 15-20 minutes , cooling system is quiet but terrible.

    3. Procesor throttling to 798mhz and 998mhz if battery is below 10% , better plug in charger if you see batery is only 10% :) maybe this is only bug in Windows 10?

    4. Screen have dark contrast.
     
  10. m.nasery

    m.nasery Newbie

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    Hi, my touchscreen ( outer glass) is cracked and I want to replace it. In order to find the right digitizer, I need to know the exact model of my Asus laptop. However, when checking it through system specifications, it says X202e but on the cover, the model is indicated as Q200e, though there is also x202e info, somewhere between Chinese characters. So do digitizers( glass) differ? which one is the correct model? Thanks
     
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