ASUS ROG GX501 Leaked

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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Video reviews showing the sound meter near the vents hanging around 39dba, then the load hits and it climbs to 50dba, 60dba, more. Watch closely; I've posted all of them - some a couple of times already, search. :)

    The load's given for various reviews for the AW 15 1070 / 17 1080 show load / gaming 50dba, along with MSI GT73 1080 about the same.

    The readings would be even less when tuning down the 1080 laptops to Max-Q 1080 performance levels, beating the Max-Q 1080 sound levels well below 50dba.

    Do some more watching and reading, the data is out there, search against my posts and others posts in the Max-Q related threads, it's all there.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nvidia claims the 1080's "sweet spot" of power/wattage vs performance allows for more performance than a 1070 with the same "sweet spot" tuning.

    AW has shown it's about a 15w difference, give or take, so by using a 1070 OC'd to the Max-Q 1080 level the laptop would need to dissipate more heat, making more noise.

    I'd just scale up the mass and capacity of the cooling, edging the laptop dimensions a bit more - still thinner than the previous generation.

    The only problem is they would be selling a 1070 laptop, not a "1080" laptop with 1070 performance, so they could only ask for 1070 equivalent pricing...

    If they use a 1080 it brings $1000 more "mystique" to the new laptops, allowing them to sell 1070 performance at 1080 level prices.
     
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  3. Darkhan

    Darkhan Notebook Evangelist

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    I will do the same comparison with sounds today from AW15r3 at full load and GX501 at full load.

    For the sound check I did on the GX501, for exhaust I held it at the left side by the opening (note the left side you can feel much more air going out then the right side. (left and right is based off from keyboard view not from backside view)

    I should have probably held it more toward the middle but I wanted to see the highest reading I could produce.

    However I can say that the Asus is the only system I have had that no one in the room complains of noise when I am gaming.
     
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    If you look at the GentechPC and XoticPC video reviews they do it against the vents - both - as one is CPU and one is GPU, usually. And also while in front of the laptop at the users sitting position.

    Remember to tune the AW to the same performance level, no fair measuring a higher performance run on the AW against a lower performance run on the Asus - it's a test of noise @ a performance level.

    Various games, some heavy loads and some normal, Futuremark runs, etc.

    Temps would be good to know too.

    If the AW is running cooler you might be able to adjust the fan curve to raise the temps to match the Asus, lowering the fan RPM and noise.

    It would be nice to have a AW 1080 vs Asus 1080 too...as those are the numbers posted earlier.

    AW 15 Max-Q 1080 vs AW 15 1070 OC would also be good.

    Getting the new Nvidia WhisperMode working on the AW would be a great comparison too - putting both on semi-equal ground with noise reducing software tuning.

    The idea has been that with a little user tuning, maybe enabling WhisperMode, even a full sized laptop can be made as quiet as a Max-Q laptop, with the added bonus of being able to leave the quiet configuration mode and run full performance when you want to :)
     
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  5. ijozic

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    I trust the notebookcheck readings as they mention the meter used, the distance and ambient noise. So, for GX501 they indicate 46 dBA max at 15 cm distance, while this goes to 50 for the 1070 equipped Alienware 15 R3 (a similar performance level). They didn't have a 1070 equipped 17 R4, only the 1080 with an HK CPU which seem a bit much for its cooling system.

    In any case, as a prospective buyer, why should I care about the sound meter readings at exhaust level? What I care about the most is the perceived noise in the direction of the laptop user. And GX501 users on this forum already posted that it's quieter than Alienware in that regard.
     
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    Darkhan Notebook Evangelist

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    So its very early here but I just did the exact same test on an AW13 6700 -130mv (Asus 7700 -130mv)
    with 1060.
    I used same stress test as Asus, Aida64 with CPU,FPU and GPU selected, ran for 5min same as Asus.
    Neither system has OC on GPU.
    AW13 Sound at rear vent was average 63db and solid 50db from keyboard, temps were at 96cpu/89GPU.
    GX501 sound at rear was 56db. Sound from keyboard 45db, Temps were at 84CPU/80GPU.
    Ambient room temp 74F.
     
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    Because it's a place that everyone can agree on, find, and video readings with consistency.

    The vents are a good reference point because it avoids the room acoustics and makes measurements for distance and height moot.

    It's a good place to standardize for a reviewer. They actually say you can compare previous videos for differences, as they use the same meter and location.

    I agree it comes down to your own use in your environment, and that's the other problem with comparing based on memory - unless you have the units side by side, or measure using a meter using the same equipment and location, you can't really compare just from memory.

    For example, one of the early buyers posted a video of his new GX501 laptop wailing at full output against a corner, and it was obviously very loud, but he was so excited about his new laptop he said it wasn't loud.

    It's all subjective, but it's also clear the GX501 when breaking past the 39dba during light use will go into the 50dba's, 60dba's and 70dba's - as with any laptop if you push it hard enough long enough, it has to get rid of that heat or throttle - or shutdown to protect itself, the GX501 is no different and it will raise the noise level to a high level.

    Using a full sized laptop, with substantially larger and better cooling will perform much higher, but can also be detuned like Max-Q manually, this hasn't been all that popular as most people are trying to tune for highest performance - after all they paid a ton of $ to get the best performance - a little fan noise is incidental.

    Using manual detuning, and now WhisperMode from Nvidia you should be able to tune down full performance laptops to quiet levels for those times you need to be. :)
     
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    Papusan BGABOOK's = That sucks!! STAHP! Dont buy FILTH...

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    I can hear you... High performance in thin format for portability... No OC on Cpu as you so nice said in the reply... How high can you OC the Cpu in this thin Asus Max Q system? Because high performance for portability must including high performing processor as well!!

    Or did Asus make same nice decision as Razers engineering team previous year? Aka designed the Asus exactly as Razerbook with a fully locked down Intel BGA + power crippled the graphics because everything needed to be designed around a thin weak flimsy underpowered PSU?
     
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    It's funny you bring this up ! I did this last night after we talked about fan noise .. on my Alienware 17r4 (repasted) I lowered the gpu to -250 MHz and put my CPU at 38!on all four cores and set the fan speed to 3300rpm and I will say the temps stayed extremely low. I ran a game like that for about 40 min I must says I'm impressed


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    Guys, can anyone of you who bought the laptop install HWinfo and tell me what the exact panel name of this laptop is?

    Im about to do an experiment here, my current laptop (ASUS FX502VM) comes standard with a crappy TN panel, Im going to replace it with the one in this Zephyrous, I was going to replace it with the IPS 120hz panel from the GL502VS but that panel is extremely hard to find online, I've searched everywhere with no succes. I hope it's not the same panel in this Zephyrous.

    Last but not least, just to confirm basic stuff, the panel in the Zephyrous is indeed IPS and 120hz right? What about the screen refresh rate? Is it around those 20-25ms? (Normal for IPS)
     
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