Asus ROG GL702ZC owners lounge

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  1. Caretaker01

    Caretaker01 Notebook Consultant

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    You have to install MSI afterburner and go to the program's settings, there you will find the option to extend official overclocking limits, asking you for a restart.
    This will unlock wattman, for the overclocking I also still have the default p states and can't OC

    Note that everytime you upgrade the gpu driver it reverts back

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  2. meteeusz

    meteeusz Notebook Consultant

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    Key to unlock freq/voltage regulation is to add all p states. GL702ZC has only p0,p1,p2,p3 states enabled. All the rest are the same as p3 (p3=p4,p5,p6,p7) according to vBIOS.
    It looks like when p3=p4,p5,p6,p7 - driver do not even recognie other p states (in WattMan and OverdriveNTool there are only p0,p1,p2,p3).

    You can mod p states either by vBIOS mod (in 3dmark datatabse there are at least two other users of GL702ZC which probably did vBIOS mod and timespy benchmark) or by tricking OS/drivers (which I did).

    Unfortunatelly I can't provide additional info and/or OC DIY instruction till I test everything to ensure safe, powerefficient and STABLE frequency/voltage settings.

    If you have time, a little bit knowledge, rationality and can risk frying your GL702ZC I can provide DIY instruction with all p states enabled but with no OC for you to test.
    And of course WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY!
    It will be something like:
    P0-300MHz/800mV
    P1-608MHz/818mV
    P2-910MHz/824mV
    P3-1073MHz/900mV
    P4-1074MHz/900mV
    P5-1075MHz/900mV
    P6-1076MHz/900mV
    P7-1077MHz/900mV
    All voltages (except P0) will be set to AUTO (like in original vBIOS).

    Any volunteers? ;)
     
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    Caretaker01 Notebook Consultant

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    Sweet, thanks, but most of us have no idea how to even begin to modify the drivers, do you have any link to start reading?

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    meteeusz Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't mod driver :), I just cheat OS/driver.

    Unlocking will be as simple as... click 2 times on file :).
    Testing safe, stable and power efficient P states is risky, time consuming and requiring a little bit of knowledge and rationality.
     
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  5. meteeusz

    meteeusz Notebook Consultant

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    I just test new P states values. All tested with superposition benchmark, 3dmark, gaming benchmark (Witcher3, BFV) for stability tests.
    I had no time to do true intensive tests right now.

    upload_2019-7-21_16-35-28.png

    1. Graph core freq vs core voltage:

    upload_2019-7-21_16-29-58.png


    It looks like 1200 MHz (P5=1191 MHz) core frequency is sweet spot for GL702ZC RX 580.
    Everything above 1200MHz mark is inefficient.

    2. Graph avg power through modded P-states:

    Please note that this graph is made with light/moderate GPU load.
    upload_2019-7-21_18-52-34.png



     
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    meteeusz Notebook Consultant

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    3. Graphs indicating avg powerdraw, max powerdraw and avg core current vs STOCK value (P3 - 1077@1.000V)
    Please note that this graphs are made with light/moderate GPU load.
    Stock avg power is determine only for P3 state (1077MHz@1.000V) to indicate if new settings are more or less power hungry.
    Everything under dotted line is better than stock.

    upload_2019-7-21_19-2-21.png

    upload_2019-7-21_19-2-27.png

    upload_2019-7-21_19-2-34.png

    Conclusion:
    RX580 can be a lot faster even without exceeding stock TDP/TDC.
    It looks like 1266MHz@0.968V is a little bit better than stock settings (1077MHz@1.000V) when it comes to power draw.

    Benchmarks:
    upload_2019-7-21_19-14-27.png

    upload_2019-7-21_19-15-16.png
     
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  7. meteeusz

    meteeusz Notebook Consultant

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    Worst case scenario: Full GPU load with FurMark (5min).
    GPU temp 87/88C when stable
    GPU fan 7600-8200rpm
    CPU fan is incorrect on photo. I don't know why it sometimes showing wrong value for couple seconds. According to NoteBook Fan Control it was at 62,5% (4700rpm)
    Avg GPU core freq 1251MHz
    Avg GPU power draw 66W / max power draw 71W
    Avg core current 62A / max (peak) core current 75A (probably short therm limit?)
    Full system (wall) power draw 300W.

    upload_2019-7-21_19-41-18.png

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    I think that's all.
    Any questions? Sugestions? Ideas for additional tests?
     
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    can you make a bios with default voltages/frequencies but with all the missing p states? my quess is that the reason why we cant adjust frequency in afterburner or wattman is the missing p states.
     
  9. meteeusz

    meteeusz Notebook Consultant

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    Yes this is true. We can't mod/OC because of missing P states.

    But I don't know what will happen after vBIOS mod (PowerPlay max gpu frequency value).
    It should probably unlock frequency regulation too.


    YOU ARE DOING ALL ON YOUR OWN RISK!
    AFTER UNPACKING READ !README.txt BEFORE DO ANYTHING ELSE!


    Check attached file.

    There is instruction (!README.txt) with some explanation "how it works" which I quickly wrote today for you.
    There are two files to mod powerplay table (one to unlock and one to go back to default).
    P states:
    upload_2019-7-22_23-13-17.png



    YOU ARE DOING ALL ON YOUR OWN RISK!
    AFTER UNPACKING READ !README.txt BEFORE DO ANYTHING ELSE!



    Give some feedback when you test anything.


    PM me for pass to file.
     

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    Last edited: Jul 22, 2019
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  10. sniffin

    sniffin Notebook Evangelist

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    That is some awesome work. What are gaming workloads like? Are you running up against the power limit (and does it throttle at all?). I would be careful with 1077MHz @ 900mV, and 1191MHz @ 918mV. IIRC Deks said he needed more than 900mV for 1077MHz. So it will probably depend a lot on your individual chip.

    edit: I'd recommend Frostbite games for testing GPU OC stability. Anthem and BF1 are excellent at finding small issues with my overclocks, when they otherwise seem perfectly fine.

    Also thank you for the graphs. It tickles me when data is presented nicely :).
     
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