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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    FYI - this may explain some anomalies people are experiencing on their AMD systems after the latest Windows 10 updates:

    CPU Vulnerabilities, Meltdown and Spectre, Kernel Page Table Isolation Patches, and more
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...atches-and-more.812424/page-103#post-10776864
    "Security TechCenter
    ADV180002 | Guidance to mitigate speculative execution side-channel vulnerabilities
    Security Advisory

    Published: 01/03/2018 | Last Updated : 08/01/2018
    https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/ADV180002

    Update 23.0 08/01/2018 Added FAQ #18 to address a high CPU utilization issue some customers with an AMD-based device are experiencing after installing the June or July Windows security updates or after installing a BIOS update.

    18. I have an AMD-based device and I am experiencing high CPU utilization after installing the June or July Windows security updates or after installing a BIOS update for my device. Is this expected?

    There have been reports of high CPU utilization resulting in performance degradation on some systems with Family 15h & 16h AMD processors after installing June 2018 or July 2018 Windows updates from Microsoft and updated AMD microcode that addresses Spectre Variant 2 (CVE-2017-5715 - Branch Target Injection). AMD and Microsoft have investigated this issue, and Microsoft is working to provide a solution in the near-term. This advisory will be updated when a solution is released.

    Customers who wish to remediate the performance impact caused by this issue may wish to consider temporarily disabling Spectre Variant 2 mitigations via registry settings for Windows until a solution for this issue is released. When a solution is released for this issue, customers will need to re-enable the registry settings.

    We do not recommend that customers uninstall the June or July security updates for Windows because the June and July updates provide numerous other critical security fixes.

    Changing Registry Settings

    Important This section, method, or task contains steps that tell you how to modify the registry. However, serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly. Therefore, make sure that you follow these steps carefully. For added protection, back up the registry before you modify it. Then, you can restore the registry if a problem occurs. For more information about how to back up and restore the registry, see [Microsoft Knowledge Base article 322756[(https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/322756).

    Note Disabling and enabling the Spectre Variant 2 mitigation through registry setting changes requires administrative rights and a restart.

    To disable Spectre Variant 2 mitigations:

    reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
    reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f

    Restart the computer for the changes to take effect.

    When the solution is available, the registry keys will need to be re-enabled.

    To enable Spectre Variant 2 mitigations:

    reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
    reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f

    Restart the computer for the changes to take effect."
     
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  2. subcarpati

    subcarpati Newbie

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    I bought mine from pc garage with r7 1700 8gb ram 1tb turtle hdd (5200rpm) // i got the last one, at 4499 lei

    I tried all games with everything on max with amd chill on 60-70 fps max with 0% fan boost without an extra cooling sistem and everything seems cool for the moment.

    Played Gta 5 / doom / battlefield 1 / latest wolfenstien / assasins creed (dunno the name, last one) / witcher 3 / path of exile. Everything is smooth as butter, just random frame drops when the hdd can't keep up ...

    The laptop is on for like 72 hours with alternative gaming sesions / downloading games / watching movies. Like I said before, flawless device. I'm in love with it.

    P.S : Thanks "#hmscott" for the support :)
     
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  3. szilu2002

    szilu2002 Newbie

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    Hello Subcarpati,
    Nice to hear that, with advanced V-sync, frame rate target control around 60 FPS in Mass Effect Andromeda with 50% fan boost with my setup i still have my CPU at 66 C and my GPU at around 77 C so not sure.... on the AUTO it would cook my SSD till 70 C which is not particularly healthy, as a side note i am running an AC as well since the operating range is up to 32 C according to the user manual.
    The random frame drops sound like it was for me before throwing out the HDD and doing a clean install, so i am not really sure if it was due to the HDD and the preloaded OS or justthe HDD, but i can tell you that i don't experience those anymore.

    @GL702ZC users
    To reiterate my question for other owners. Did someone upgrade memory? The official response from ASUS was only Samsung and Hynix kits with speeds up to 2400 MHz. Did anyone upgrade with 2666 MHz? If someone upgraded what kit did you use?

    thanks,
     
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  4. Accursed

    Accursed Newbie

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    Arrived here through a google search, specifically this post:

    Did you ever figure out how to get Freesync working? If not, does it make a noticable difference?

    More importantly:

    I noticed all the drivers on the relevent page mention they're for Win10 only, but I'm having a hard time finding out exactly what certain drivers are in order to google for a Win7 version. Most concerning is the "Geneysys Card Reader" driver, which through a quick search seems to be a USB driver. Since I'll be installing the drivers via USB...it's a tad concerning that the USB itself needs specialist drivers.

    Did the Win10 drivers work fine, or did you have to hunt around fo Win7? Which drivers did you end up installing?
     
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    teddk Newbie

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    Hey,

    Just bought this laptop (R7 1700, 1 x 16gb ram, sshd 1tb, rx580 4gb). Planning to buy another 16gb stick because of performance boost in dualchannel + adding some ssd. I reinstalled win from Win Home to Pro and installed all drivers, than picked ryzer balanced power option. I'm just curious, what's the maximum power I can get out of this laptop? Safe clocks and voltages? I undervolted my gpu -93mv and cpu too to 1.05v on 3300mhz but my idle temperatures right now are about 62 degree celsius. I'm new in this thread and definitely too lazy to read all 103 pages. Can someone tell me how can I get most out of this laptop? Thanks in advance.
     
  6. AngieAndretti

    AngieAndretti Notebook Enthusiast

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    Here's the quick and easy stuff that'll make a big difference:
    • I run a rock-solid everyday CPU OC of 3.7GHz at 1.2v. I'm able to get as high as 3.9GHz across all eight cores on my unit, but the required voltage goes parabolic after about 1.375GHz so it's not worth it outside of maybe benchmarking. Once you get your settings how you like them in Ryzen Master and you're happy that it's stable, there's even a program called ZenStates floating around out there that will allow you to program your overclock to run automatically at Windows startup.
    • RAM speed makes a big impact on CPU performance with Ryzen systems, as does running dual-channel RAM. Buy two sticks of DDR4-2666; that's the fastest RAM speed this machine's BIOS supports.
    • It's actually really easy to use ATIFlash & PolarisBiosEditor to mod the VBIOS on this system. Adding a bin for 1,250MHz at 1.025v seems to be a popular choice. I also changed the GPU TDP from 68w to 75w. Honestly it could clock higher and draw a lot more power but the VRM's on this motherboard would fail quickly if we gave this GPU all the clock and power it could take.
    • Oh, and lastly open up the ROG Gaming Center and set a Fan Boost of, say, 20-25%.
    These simple changes have made a BIG improvement in system performance versus the out-of-box configuration.
     
  7. AngieAndretti

    AngieAndretti Notebook Enthusiast

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    I remember a while back we were all complaining about our laptop's batteries not matching up to the advertised spec, all showing ~20% wear right out of the box.
    Well I purchased and installed a replacement battery, AND NO MORE BATTERY WEAR! Increased battery runtime too!


    It's been a while since I've been here so forgive me if something like this has already been posted but here's my update on the topic:
    After a total of 14 charge cycles, as per HwInfo64, my original battery failed. It still showed a percentage of charge remaining but would no longer power the laptop, nor could it take additional charge - so logic would suggest a failure of a wire or a trace on the little board that's inside the battery. Anyway I purchased a "new" replacement on eBay and it works so much better. I get a longer unplugged runtime and no more 20% battery wear. FYI the seller's eBay handle was "good-batteries" and the battery cost me about $57. Here are before-and-after pictures. Even after a month of running regularly on the new battery, I've still only accumulated 0.8% wear.

    BatteryWear.png Replacement Battery with No Wear.png
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Great news!

    Now every previous owner should call Asus and ask for a free battery replacement!! :)

    Thanks for the heads up! +rep

    @mason2smart
     
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  9. dnak_ebloa

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    There was talk on this thread about using future Ryzen CPU's on this machine. The person who seemed they might be developing a BIOS mod for this to happen I remember said that they weren't interested in the 2700 cpu, (i guess because the performance bump wasn't significant enough), but they were interested to hold out for the following gen. What is this following gen, does anyone know what they may have been referring to? (3700??)
     
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    mhdvt Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have little interest in a 2700 because it's a marginal performance increase. Whereas a 3700 will be 7nm and should bring increased core count and/or clockspeed/IPC. I haven't done any work on it as of late either as I'm swamped with work and will be until later this year.
     
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