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Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Ryan, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, I am. In fact I called them to ask if they has something of a notebook that I was looking for, and they pointed this one out to me. Here is the web site where you can configure it (they use their own type number of course):

    https://bto.eu/product/v•book-17cl817/

    It's in Dutch, but you will understand it.

    That's wonderful, what a f**k up.
    That was about a year ago, At the time I contacted a German supplier, and they offered the B173ZAN01.0, which is 100% Adobe RGB. Unfortunately they changed their business to offering foils on displays (anti-glare etc.), it seems they stepped out of repairing display business.
    The price was less then $100 more than a 'normal' display, I was surprised by the low prices.
    I just checked for the price of a B173ZAN01.0, and it is available for $156 at Amazon.
     

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  2. XMG

    XMG Company Representative

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    That's exactly the panel that is still being used in P775TM and which I referred to in my last post. Clevo is sourcing these panels directly from the factory with very high quality demand, but I'm sure they are making some margin on it.
    Low prices for such panels on 3rd party sources (you cited $156 at Amazon) often come from leftover batches there were screened out for dead pixels. The higher the number of pixels in your panel, the higher your risk of having a dead one. It's not covered under warranty but still annoying.
    At any rate, this is usually a relatively unstable way of sourcing for a mid-sized manufacturer like us.

    Thanks for pointing it out, I will have another look.
    Meanwhile, Computex starts tomorrow and I'm attending. I might not be super responsive in here until June 3.

    Cheers,
    XMG|Tom
     
  3. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    I get that, but I saw many other companies offering this panel for prices up to around € 200.
    If you order these panels from Clevo, then you can be sure that there is a hefty extra margin. Sometimes when you order components directly from the manufacturer, you can save up to 90% (real experience) in extreme cases.

    Anyway, it would be nice if Clevo could come up with a list of all notebooks that can support this panel, even if they can't be ordered directly from Clevo.
    I hope you have an interesting time on the Computex.
     
  4. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Not from MSI, though those P series models are implied that that's what they're for. Maybe they'll get one of those really nice new panels in those if there's enough interest.
     
  5. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    I looked at the top model, the 17.3 inch P75. Unfortunately just a normal 1920 x 1080 display with 100% sRGB, not 100% Adobe RGB., let alone 4k :tears:
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    They seem pretty popular this time around, I'm hoping for some diversification in display options in newer models.
     
  7. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    Perhaps Clevo will use the new Ice Lake U CPUs in new notebooks with 4k displays. It seems Intel is targeting the high-end versions of these CPUs to high-end notebooks. Perhaps not for gaming, but I really wonder hows many notebooks are actually used for gaming.
     
  8. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

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    Who thought it was a good idea to have a 4K panel at 17" or less? Having to use scaling sux. I'd rather have a nice 1440p panel.
     
  9. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    You could always go the workstation route, and get yourself something like a Dell Precision 7740: you can configure the graphics card, everything from no discrete card to a Quadro RTX 5000, no desktop CPU, and plenty of ports. Oh, and it has a 17" 4K 100% ARGB display.

    As for @XMG's comment:


    Dell has done precisely this with their Precision 7X30 series: they have a 40-to-30 pin eDP cable. My own motherboard has a 40-pin connector, but the display is a 1080p 60 Hz 6bpc one (LG LP156WF6), with a 30-pin port. I don't have the cable with me right now, but I can take a photo of it.

    I think it can be done, just that manufacturers aren't willing to do so. Dell does, because it has the economies of scale that Clevo doesn't.
     
  10. grunnsat

    grunnsat Notebook Consultant

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    The point is that 4k displays are easily available with 100% Adobe RGB, or close to it. Rumour has it that there were (are?) 1920 x 1080 displays with 100% Adobe RGB, but try to find them, and then see if they fit in your notebook.

    At the moment it seems that Clevo is producing about 500 different notebook chassis (perhaps a bit less, but not much), but nothing moderately priced for customers wanting to edit photographs, and needing a display that has 100% Adobe RGB or similar.
     
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