Apple stops Windows 7 support in 2015 models.

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  1. KCETech1

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    I try not to rant and rave too much, I like to think im a bit too old and mature for that, BUT I have to say Apple what drug induced session of utter stupidity has possessed you to kill bootcamp support for Windows 7 in the 2015 models?

    Now I understand it may be a little old by some standards but good grief how many users use or need it supported, you pretty much just managed to say screw you to a huge number of users that use your platform for games, Windows business applications, corporate use, and even many average users who have need of running it as a second OS natively. I know many users were ticked off when the new Mac Pro had no 7 support didn't you learn then?

    http://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/20/new-macbook-pro-air-no-windows-7-bootcamp/

    and FYI trying to run 7 too much in VM or Parallels on that core M 13" is a pain in the gluteus maximus
     
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    LOL. Even Apple wants you to switch to Windows 8.
     
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    Aint gonna happen. damn near every large business unit is running 7 and will be for awhile. if Apple was trying to attract more business users its another shot in the foot for pro users as I see it. I hate win 8, 8.1 isn't bad at all with startmenu installed. I am liking windows 10 however and if/once 10 is well adopted then I could see removing 7.
     
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    Does not supported really mean not possible?
     
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    define possible.

    at this point it means no Apple functional trackpad driver at all so think 10x worse than any cheap netbook and no APM/CPU/Storage drivers either, the best sofar seems to be a pretty bad cobbled together set of drivers and extreme minimal keyboard and touchpad drivers and horrible CPU throttling.

    If you've ever tried to setup windows 7 on an earlier model or iMac with none of the Apple required drivers from a bootcamp install or folder its almost futile to be even slightly happy.
     
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    Worst case is companies will end up going with a VM solution to run their Windows 7 needs like Virtualbox, VMWare Fusion, or Parallels Desktop. I know in my previous two companies I worked for, it is very rare that the platform engineers and users who use a Mac with Windows needs end up using Boot Camp. They all end up using it like a VM.

    It is not cool that Apple may be pulling this stunt, but there are other ways around it that will enable W7 to still work on Macs.
     
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    I have a Windows 7 VM running on my rMBP and it runs just fine but I don't do any gaming or high-graphics-requirements stuff with it. Just use it to run TurboTax and QuoteTracker. I'm working on setting up a Windows 10 Tech Preview VM on it as well to see how it runs. I have Windows 8.1 on another system and am annoyed at Microsoft over various things.

    I don't really care for the new Start button that morphs into the Modern UI nor that a lot of traditional configuration panel stuff is now Modern UI. I really hope that there's a simple way to get the UI back to Windows 7 mode. The current thinking at my home is that we'll just stay on Windows 7 until it goes out of support (around 2020) and then think about what to do. Windows 8.1 isn't an option and we'll see about Windows 10.
     
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    I can understand the frustration. But other than a preference to use Win7, what requirement/necessity is there to stay with Win7? Do the companies care what the OS is on a personal laptop when they connect to their system?

    From my experience or as far as I know, what can be done in Win7 can be done also using Win8.1. Other than having to learn a new OS, I've not run into any restrictions using Win8.1 in a Win7 corporate world.
     
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    They restrict what you can do if you're on Windows XP but the other versions of Windows are okay.

    I did not like the default cloud integration that came with Windows 8.1.

    I don't want cloud integration in Windows 10. You have to be careful on the install as it does it by default but it does at least give you an option to opt out but you have to be careful in the installation process.

    Windows 8.1 introduced a major problem with Synergy (it broke the Caps key) for quite some time until Synergy or Microsoft fixed the problem.

    I don't like having to run third-party software to get the UI back to where it was before. I played around with the Windows 10 UI and needed to install Classic Shell to get me back to where my other Windows systems are.

    I don't trust Microsoft on support and licensing fees for Windows 10. It's safer to just stay on Windows 7.

    Windows 7 is our corporate version - you can't install other versions of Windows on company-owned systems.

    I have support through 2020 - if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

    I really didn't like the way Microsoft forced you to upgrade from Windows 8.0 to Windows 8.1 by removing updates from 8.0 to 8.1. That's a practice that I worry about for their future operating systems.
     
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