Apple Refuses to fix a T2 failure - no evidence of water damage...

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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Apple has been running toward this future for a long time - and now they have arrived at making the T2 irreplaceable - creating an unserviceable laptop, and if Apple deems that it has water damage - even if there is no evidence of water damage - there is no repair possible. You are forced to buy a new laptop even if your old one is still under warranty and Apple refuses to service it.

    Apple users have no one to blame but themselves.
    Louis Rossmann
    Published on Aug 2, 2019
    In 2019, there is a lot of information available on Apple's design practices, how they deal with lemons, and the longevity of their products. If you still choose to give them money, whatever happens to you, your wallet, or your data is on you.


    lastgunslinger3759 1 hour ago (as long as you continue to support a company that treats their customers in this fashion they will continue to treat customers in this fashion with no checks and balances. End of story"

    mike bob 1 hour ago
    "The worst part is how the apple fan boys just defend everything they do always some stupid excuse"

    ohaider123 1 hour ago (edited)
    "This is horrifically concerning, seriously horrifically concerning. I have no idea how Louis managed not to scream in frustration in this video."
     
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  2. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Overpriced laptops and computers, unreliable butterfly keyboards, unreliable display flex cables, soldered ram, soldered SSD, quirky T2 chip. Popular Mac websites are littered with T2 issues.

    If you just stand back and look at the big picture, I can count at least 5 red flags why you should not buy Apple laptops.

    But just like Formula 1 drivers wanting to drive for Ferrari, you have your typical Apple clientele who doesn’t care what you tell them. They just want a bite of the Apple.

    Caveat Emptor !
     
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  3. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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    I called this years ago even with the T1 that Apple was looking to lock down even the NB/SB controller environment in their Macs. The T2 solidified it and the writing is on the wall for Hackintoshes. It isn't a matter of if but when for the OSX86 community.

    The way they're treating the Mac and OSX like it is a super tablet and trying to lock down everything (See: App/program validation) is pretty repugnant.

    To be completely at Apple's whim if your system dies in certain situations is alarming to say the least.

    Doing everything they can to eliminate, greatly hinder, or control third party repairs is insulting.
     
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  4. Eclipse2016

    Eclipse2016 Notebook Geek

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    They just want people buying new Apple computers as often as possible. When we consider the environmental toll mining for rare-earth metals takes and the exploitation of people in Third World countries where most of these metals come from, Apple can hardly call itself a 'green' company, or an ethical one.
     
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  5. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    Quite true but it also applies to many if not most of their toys and gadgets. They design their products to be extremely difficult if not impossible to take apart or repair and as was mentioned a couple of comments up, they are doing everything to take away the ability for the end user to repair or upgrade their Apple products.

    I purchased a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny which is about the same idea and size of the Mac Mini. The 2018 Mac Mini is a royal PITA to take apart just to replace the memory SO-Dimms. The ThinkCentre Tiny comes apart with 1 screw and you can replace the HDD, RAM, and M2 Storage card in less than 5 minutes. That's how companies should be designing their computers and products.
     
  6. Eclipse2016

    Eclipse2016 Notebook Geek

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    Totally agree.
     
  7. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    The recently Apple quarterly report from a distance looked good but most of the gains were from services and now they are cherry picking the data such as stating how they had their best qtr ever in wearables. I thought they decided about mentioning specific categories?

    The biggest mention was services which is Music, TV, News. They had no problems boasting about that after all but there's clouds on the horizon because iPhones sales, iPad sales and Mac sales continue trending down. As I have mentioned in the past, you need to sell devices to encourage and support subscriptions.

    Inside the numbers people are beginning to give the middle finger to $1000 phones. It's not just Apple but Samsung as well. The smartphone sector is just saturated at this point since the iPhone arrived on the scene. It's really about diminishing returns wrt smartphones because a 2-4 yr old smartphone can basically do what a current smartphone can do as well. The iPhone Xr was their biggest seller and only because it was the cheapest. You can now buy top quality phones for a 3rd the price of the iPhone Xr.

    One problem regarding subscriptions that doesn't get mentioned a whole lot, is that there is a HUGE/BIGGLY shakeout on the horizon because everyone is now offering subscriptions. In the beginning it was a great idea because you could sell the idea of cutting the cord i.e. "cable" and paying ala cart. Now with everyone including ESPN, Disney, CBS etc. offering a subscription people will begin to realize that they are back to paying the same amount or more in subs verses their cable or just say "F" it because of all the different options. Out of all the different packages YouTube TV IMO, has the best overall package but the price keeps going up which says they guys are not making any money doing this.

    In order to make money off of subscriptions it requires discretionary spending and that only works if the economy is doing good. Apple concentrating on services rather than toys, gadgets and computers is a double edge sword. It will hit them hard if the economy goes really south like it did in 2008/9.
     
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    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    Apple is hardly the only one to do that.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I took the point as being Apple *needed* to cherry pick, whereas usually the news is so positive for Apple that they typically didn't need to arrange the facts to fit their narrative. The drop in unit sales prompted Apple's creative reporting to fit their "Services" narrative.

    And, that's right, fewer sales means fewer end users buying services - and selling $B's of services isn't enough for investors, they need to have positive growth in record numbers in services sales going forward to still be that high growth company worthy of their lofty stock price.

    Apple needs to figure out the total sales potential of each device including services - while service sales are still high and rising - and bundle an inexpensive device that encourages continuing growth in services sales. That might work for them.

    But, $1000 phones are over the top and on the decline, at least for now.
     
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    Papusan JOKEBOOK's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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