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Apple MacBook Air Announced at MacWorld '08

Discussion in 'Notebook News and Reviews' started by Andrew Baxter, Jan 15, 2008.

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  1. jtmat

    jtmat Notebook Evangelist

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    The mac book air is not for me, but then again mac has a full line of products that bring choice. The Mac Pro is more my speed... and I accept that.

    Guess we will know in a year if this will go the way of the cube or ipod.

    It is nice to see them pushing the envelope on development which will in turn make their other products better in the long run....
     
  2. Nolan.Rivers

    Nolan.Rivers Notebook Guru

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    you people who are talking about this as if it won't sell are crazy.
    the look is sleek and impressive. sure anyone who knows jack about computers knows this is extraordinarily lacking in features and overpriced( what apple products do you know that aren't)..
    you guys say it has a limited target group as if that is not expected. although i don't know one university girl who knows about this that didn't act like they wanted it..
     
  3. LeMan

    LeMan Newbie

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    I know at least one notebook which gives more value for your cash...A SONY VAIO TZ-190! It has everything I need for my work. With the Airbook you cant not replace the battery, for business that's really important. When they mention 5 hours, for standard use - 3 hours.
    With my TZ I work for around 5 hours before...then I have an extra battery :)

    Go and buy a Vaio TZ! I am very proud owner of one!
     
  4. stabile007

    stabile007 Notebook Guru

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    Yup I was kidding :) I do believe it will sell more then ten units....the iPhone in terms of how well it would do I was unsure of because it was actually pretty nice and it is like having an iPod and a phone all at the same time. I just wish it had more space.





    Working as a TSA screener (Yes I know I said a very evil thing now and what little respect I had is also probably gone) I have seen a many buisness people whose office is their breifcase and you are right I see a lot of Thinkpad X's out there but more often then not when I do I often see an assortment of portable hard drives, optical drives, and actually more wires and accessories then I would know what to do with. I also notice that all these things end up taking more space then the laptop does in the bag. So while you are on a plane or sitting waiting for a plane you won't use any of these really. But if they carry it all with them then there seems to be a need. Since a lot of these devices are USB based it is even of more importance to have multiple ports.

    In addition you mentioned wireless and yup a lot of new things are coming out....unfortunately anyone with a MacBook Air will be watching from the sideline due to a lack of an expansion slot. I do not feel there is a market for this yet not one that is really viable but down the road? I think we will see a re-hash of this when optical is less important and a newer smaller medium takes over. And when wireless is everywhere I think this thing would be awesome. But seeing how WiFi is at its limits and thats all this supports I just think its ahead of its time.

    Oh for being on an airplane. I think this would perform similarly to a macbook pro because the footprint is similar. After all on a plane a lot of it has to do with the foot print more then the thickneess although it does help a little.
     
  5. Sub-D

    Sub-D Notebook Evangelist

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    And these people won't be using the MBA since it is too big to be an ultraportable. What's required in machines that serve a purpose such as this is not thinness; most notebooks can fit in an average briefcase; but rather footprint (I'm beginning to sound like a broken record but some people just still don't get it). Its important that the notebook fit on small desks, is small enough to be carried around with other items and is durable. The MBA has neither the footprint to be classified as ultraportable nor does it appear to have the durability needed.

    For all the MBA wants to be one, its not an ultraportable. I think we can scratch that part of the market off for it.
     
  6. lappyforphotoshop

    lappyforphotoshop Notebook Deity

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    Apple means rip off business.

    It should have been priced 1200 US ,similar PCs are much cheaper, and this toy like design is disgusting.

    I like the Thinkpad X61 , it is cool nothing like a toy , Iphone , Mac , Ipod , I hate all apples.

    HP business note book with T7500 is much cheaper than this and much faster for sure , plus Apples have horrible LCDs.

    I wonder if some one else also make macs , they will be cheaper in order to compete ?

    Maybe not since Apple is so arrogant , I am sure it will sell well in the USA, but not out side of it.....bye bye Jobs , I love Gates that I saw last year more than Jobs that I do for living , well I am a fan of Bill Gates any way.

    Good nite to all.
     
  7. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    The price is not very reasonable, contrary to what people have said. For the cost of the lowest end model, you can get the highest-end MacBook or even the lowest-end MacBook Pro, both of which are far more powerful computers than the Air. And while people may argue that its an ultraportable, its not going to be very durable; somebody on this thread said they would be hesitant to stuff a $2000 laptop together with their textbooks in a backpack. Not very portable, is it?

    While it is a very aesthetically pleasing and glamorous machine, I have doubts of its ability to perform, sell (among more tech-savvy users), and survive the life of a laptop.
     
  8. BuleGila

    BuleGila Notebook Enthusiast

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    I couldn't agree more. Macs are really just a product for Americans still stuck in their bubble. I love seeing apple fanboys on here trying to defend silly products like these. Always a great laugh. :cool:
     
  9. duffyanneal

    duffyanneal Notebook Deity

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    I don't think there has never been a true definition of what qualifies as an ultraportable notebook. What does it mean to be ultraportable? :D

    If you stopped 100 people on the street and asked them a question. If asked if they thought a notebook that was approximately the same width, depth, and height as a standard paper writing tablet was ultraportable what do you think they would say? A standard letter size notepad is about 8.5" X 11.5" (or 9" X 11" depending on where the binding is) the MBA is (8.94" X 12.8").

    I have actually owned a few ultraportables (TZ, TX, U1, X1, X40, X60, X61, OQO2..the list goes on) myself so I have my own definition of an ultraportable. I think the MBA can qualify as an ultraportable due to the weight and height. It wouldn't be a great device if you were backpacking, but if a person needs to do a lot of keyboarding and manipulation of data on-screen the MBA would be more user friendly than say a TZ on a train or in a meeting. If you need something that can be tucked away in a backpack and is used to watch movies, listen to music, or minor keyboarding work the TZ would be a better fit.

    There aren't many ultraportables I would consider very durable. The Thinkpad X series and the Panny R series being the exceptions. When I had my TZ a couple of months ago I was always paranoid about scratching the carbon fiber casing. It felt fragile to me, but ultraportables are not meant to be treated roughly. I'm sure the MBA will stand up to some punishment, but I would not want to be the guy that drops it onto one of its corners from a couple feet up. :eek:
     
  10. duffyanneal

    duffyanneal Notebook Deity

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    Dare I ask what do BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Audi, Lamborghini mean to you?

    Similar PCs are much cheaper?? So the Sony TZ, Tosh R500, Panny R series, etc. are cheaper. Man where do you live...Bizzaro world?


    So you dislike a company that has without doubt had a direct positive influence on many of the tech items you own? Or do you mean Apple like the kind that fall from the tree? :D I'll have to introduce you to Newton.

    :confused: You having a bad day?

    Sounds like you are the person to get the ball rolling. You might want to give Motorola a call first.

    Good nite to you. Please take a Prozac in the morning. :D
     
  11. Sub-D

    Sub-D Notebook Evangelist

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    And how many students do you know that don't have a techie friend or can even afford this?
     
  12. Sub-D

    Sub-D Notebook Evangelist

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    Whilst you raise some very valid points duffy, I'm pretty sure that most people will agree with me that the most important aspect of an ultraportable laptop is it's footprint (something I am now growing very weary of saying). I'm not going to go over my reasons for believing so again since I am sick and tired of doing so. Reread over the thread and you'll see many reasons as to why the MBA is not an ultraportable.
     
  13. duffyanneal

    duffyanneal Notebook Deity

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    We're in a bubble? Since when was being the largest purchaser of consumer electronics in the world a bad thing?

    It will sell well in Japan.

    The only thing more funny than the Apple fanboys are people that have nothing better to do than spew out total FUD. :rolleyes:
     
  14. havand

    havand Notebook Consultant

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    So if it isn't durable enough to stuff in a bag with books, then what good is it being so thin?

    And how would it be better to use on a plane/train where lap space is limited? Being thin does absolutely nothing for it here, except allow the horror of horrors to happen when someone puts their seat back, taps the edge of the case and puts a permanent 10 degree warp in it forever.

    I would MUCH rather have the sony or the asus eee (i REALIZE not in the same class, i mean the form factor) than this thing.
     
  15. duffyanneal

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    I've actually read your posts and as I said prior you have very valid points. But did you read my part that shows that the footprint of the MBA is nearly the same size as a writing tablet? So you're saying that a writing tablet is too large to fit on a desk? :D

    You know we could do this all day? But I do understand your point. BTW, I really don't intend on purchasing a MBA anytime soon. I'm not an Apple fanboy. I am actually platform agnostic. Personally, yesterday was a bit of a let down.
     
  16. Sub-D

    Sub-D Notebook Evangelist

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    The definition of an ultraportable is very subjective but I think classifying an laptop with a footprint larger than that of the standard MacBook is a bit rich considering most people do not consider the MacBook itself ultraportable. I see the limitation of calling something ultraportable as being a 12.1" screen. Any higher and it can't comfortably fit on any type of desk or into any bag.

    I agree that MacWorld was a let down. I was hoping for an iTablet to be honest.
     
  17. havand

    havand Notebook Consultant

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    I was envisioning something like a touch with a 10 or 12" screen. Large on screen keyboard for typing when necessary. I've used an iphone, I end up turning it sideways because I can't hit the letters.

    It would have been great to play dvds, surf the web, etc. and they surely could have done that for ~<$1000, I think.
     
  18. hurrikaane

    hurrikaane Notebook Geek

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    Lewdvig you're about a year and a half late in updating your Italia shield, we now have four stars.
     
  19. JabbaJabba

    JabbaJabba ThinkPad Facilitator

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    Yes, like I mentioned earlier, regardless of whether you like Apple's products or not, they sure do know how to cause a stir and gain publicity.
     
  20. BuleGila

    BuleGila Notebook Enthusiast

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    So far the only one spewing out "FUD" is none other then yourself. Just show me the proof it will sell well in Japan, a country that produces 1000x better products then any apple could hope for.

    And by we, I do not include all Americans ((I'm American myself)). I just refer to the sadly misinformed ones ((yourself included)).
     
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