Aorus X5 V7, X7 V7, DT X7 all estimated for June release in USA

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  1. Falkentyne

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    In my opinion, it's not a regression.
    Unless you're using that gigantic "Not a laptop" laptop with the 21" screen, FHD on a 17" screen is not a sea of pixels. It's not like FHD on a 24" desktop monitor (which is barely acceptable). On a laptop, higher refresh rate is definitely better here. Smoother gameplay and extends the gsync limits.
     
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    Before You got 120Hz on a QHD screen, now a 144hZ FHD ... and like we can always see aliasing on FHD screen, that also mean that the resolution is not high enough ... For now, QHD is the perfect balance beetween power and high resolution. And with 120Hz screen the gameplay is already smooth .... 144Hz is just a marketing thing. But, don't worry, it's just my opinion ... you can think that FHD is okay (you won't be alone) ... (like some guys think that 900p was okay on 15 inch laptop in the year 2011)
     
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    Was the QHD 120hz screen IPS like the 144hz panel or the inferior TN panel?


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    We’re past maxwell life span. GTX980 was 20 months in until pascal was announced, and released in the same month

    We’re almost 24 months in with Pascal and no announcements have been made.

    Pascal will be 2 years old May 26th. She’s still not showing her age!
     
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    I’m in the same boat pretty much. I’m skipping these V8s I really don’t need more cpu. My X7 V7 is killing it. No sense in upgrading right now
     
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    In fact, i replied in the other topic ;) it's my fault like i talk about the same subject on two different topic (here i complete with my experience with my aorus X7DTV7)

    so i will copy paste my answer here :
    "I am agree that IPS panel is better than TN ... but, i am not a graphist or photograph, just a gamer that prefer to have less aliasing on his screen with a QHD 120Hz screen that provide smooth gameplay with high definition pictures ... maybe in the future we will have QHD ips panel with hifgh refresh rate... but if you got better accurate colours with IPS ... you also loose the ability to have a better resolution (on the aorus series, i know that 4k ips screen exist on other laptop). Playing in FHD with a GTX1080 ... on a laptop that cost beetween 2800 and 3800€ (x7dtv8 and x9dt) ... it made me mad ;) when you think that the previous generation (like the X7DT i own) got QHD 120Hz screen..."

    I will add that the pantone xrite profile correct some issue with the TN panel (without doing miracle) ... I can't honestly recommand the QHD TN 120Hz panel to someone who work as a graphist or photograph, but for a majority of users (gamers) ... the colour accuracy (with the pantone calibration) will be enough and having a QHD 120Hz make the game looking awesome ( less aliasing /smooth gameplay and don't need the horsepower for 4K gaming) ... QHD add 1.7x more surface for working and can be used at native resolution without scalling (unlike 4K screen).

    Like we see some 27 inch 4K ips 144Hz panel coming in the market, there is some hope to see one day QHD/4K ips 144hz panel on our laptop.
    I know that some of you will say that FHD screen is sufficient, but the majority of the guys saying this don't have a QHD screen in their laptop (and never saw it in action) ... That remind me the debate (2011) when manufacturers goes from 900P screen to FHD screen on 15 inch laptop ;)
    At that old time (2011), i was thinking that 900P was sufficient ... but if you ask me now i can't have a 15 inch laptop with a resolution inferior to FHD.
    Apple include high resolution screen on their laptop since a long time (you can see 13" laptop with resolution up to QHD) ... the issues on PC are hardware (having enough power to run game at high resolution, and the 1080 is already capable of QHD gaming) and software (some profesionnal software don't scale well with High resolution screen) ... but those issues concern 4K resolution and not QHD that can be used on a 17 inch screen in native resolution without scaling. So this is why i talk about regression, unless you are a graphist or photograph, the TN QHD 120Hz screen will provide you a really good experience with enough colour accuracy, great resolution, smooth gameplay with 120Hz ... (144hz vs 120hz sound like a pro-gamer marketing thing)

    Excuse me for my english, it's not my native language
     
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    @Tonrac

    Guys, 4K ips Pantone is awesome! The image quality is rediculous. I needed the viewing angle to be superb, and the colors are silly good. I use 100% scaling, the room to work is nice. Your eyes take adjusting to see the tiny font, and after just a few minutes of manipulation of windows, or just doing work they will become strained sorta. But, the space is fantastic.

    Some games like plants vs zombies, I scale to 6-7K for my kids at about 30-40fps. It looks just rediculously good.

    I have never tried high refresh rate gaming, so I don’t know any better..

    Although, I’m curious. And it has caught my interest!

    I’ve found these new 1080P 17” 144Hz panels on ebay for $159 I’m curious to try one, and swap my 4K out to see what all this ranting is about.

    Here’s the link to the (1080P) 144Hz

    https://www.ebay.com/i/232056993198...4%26rvr_ts%3Dbdbcbffc1620aa46c4029abdffffafe4

    It’s so cheap, you could just swap back and forward when you need to.

    I’ve found that 4K medium settings on my display looks much better than say, 1440P stretched to my screen with ultra high graphics. But it’s only because it has to stretch the resolution. I wish I could try 1440 120hz, or 1080 144.

    I feel like I’m missing out on something? Maybe I’m not..I’m happy with my performance at 4K. But I do play a lot of BF1 and even Overwatch. So maybe I’d have an advantage with 1080P 144Hz
     
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    I agree that 4k IPS screen is awesome. Like you can see in my signature, i am also an owner of a P37Xv6 with 4K screen.
    But unfortunately, Gpu horsepower is not sufficient right now to have all the game smooth and fluent with such a resolution. (maybe tomorrow with volta or his successor)

    It's great you can use your 4k screen without scaling ... i really don't know if you would benefit for a 144Hz screen ... my experience on my QHD 120Hz screen is that on some game, it add a more pleasant and fluent gaming experience. But i really doubt that it will give you really a big advantage in multiplayer (for me it sound like a pro-gamer marketing thing : "Hey with your 144hz screen you will kill your enemies before they can see you ... more fps ... more Frag").
    For your bad 1440P experience, you are right, it's because it's stretched on your screen and you will have a different experience if it was the native resolution of your screen.
    To be honest the QHD Tn 120Hz is good but not as good as an ips screen, so it depend on your needs.
    You need to work on pictures --> no go : Tn screen is not as accurate as IPS (for my needs, Pantone profile correct a lot some weakness of the panel, like i am a gamer, colours are accurate enough to enjoys my game ... also watching a movie is not an issue).
    Do you really need viewing angle ? Yes --> No go : Ips have better viewing angle (for my needs, i don't care, i don't need someone to look at my screen while i use my laptop .. and i am in front of it when i use it)

    If you go to a FHD screen, you will divide your room to work by 4,and if you go to a QHD by 2.25 ... (just to be clear, when i said that there is no QHD / 4K screen on aorus series, i talk about the V8 generation not the previous gen ;) )
     
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    I think we’re already in the 4K era for the most part.

    I mean everyone knows even a gtx1070 or better yet a gtx1080 is a 4K high settings graphics card. No AA of course.

    And there’s always that 1 game that cripples any GPU lol in any generation, and it hurts your feelings!

    But, we’re pretty much there id say.

    Doom, BF1, BF4, Fallout 4, CODWWII, Starwars Battlefront II, watchdogs 2, Plants vs Zombies, NFS Pay Back.

    All of these titles run amazing even sometimes maxed out completely.

    I think if you strapped a 4K panel to your X7 V7 DT, with a heavy overclock running no AA. You would come back saying, man this laptop runs virtually anything in 4K, and you’d be very surprised.

    I will say this, the one game that just slams my Laptop in 4K, is Kingdom Come Deliverance! And it even cripples a Titan XP for that matter.

    While 4K is playable with a combination of Ultra and med settings mixed it still only manages like 37 FPS avg but it’s a slow paced game, so that’s still playable.
     
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  10. Tonrac

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    I agree with all what you said ... the fact is that i like to play my games with all their eye candy stuff (to be clear i like playing my game at ultra setting /maxed out) ... the only setting i can turn off is AA (because with 4K or even QHD, we can disable this feature)
    But some games put the 1080 in difficulty even with QHD resolution : Deus Ex Mankind Divided : 51fps at QHD ultra setting ... still playable but not perfect.
    I agree that i exaggerate when i said this "But unfortunately, Gpu horsepower is not sufficient right now to have all the game smooth and fluent with such a resolution. (maybe tomorrow with volta or his successor)"
    It's because i appreciate running my game maxed out ;) ... so when i saw how Deus Ex MD, Assassin's creed Origin are hungry on QHD ... i can't imagine running it at 4K screen. I imagine also the futur AAA title .... that's why it may me think that it's better waiting next gen gpu for playing at 4K resolution.
    But you are right ... we can already play at 4K resolution with a good experience ;)
    Good game ;)
     
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