AMD's Ryzen CPUs (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris/Navi GPUs

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  1. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You tell'em @ole!!!:

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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Here's someone that listened to the Ryzen CPU boost tuning tips and implemented them to optimize CPU boost and his 3900x is now getting almost 4.7ghz boost:

    Y0yOy0 4 points 18 hours ago
    "Got my bios updated to the new ABBA agesa which got me a small increase in boost frequency. I also downclocked my memory to just below 3600 mhz (got my cpu to boost even higher with this). Additionally I changed BCLK to 101 instead of 100 and now my 3900x boosts almost up to 4.7 ghz. Pretty cool. The mobo I'm using is the Gigabyte x570 aorus elite."

    This is also a good idea:

    Largemonitor1 1 point 2 days ago
    "Is it not better to just manually set these things with PBO off? I have had a much faster system since doing the same using less voltage and MUCH lower temps with my 3800x set to 4.4ghz constantly."

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    PowerColor RX 5700 Red Dragon Review: Non-XT Overclocking, Thermals, & Noise
    Gamers Nexus
    Published on Sep 10, 2019
    This is the first of our non-XT RX 5700 series reviews, featuring the PowerColor RX 5700 Red Dragon primarily versus the AMD reference card. In this review, we're looking at the PowerColor RX 5700 non-XT Red Dragon video card, diving into GPU thermals, acoustics/noise levels, gaming performance, and overclocking. The RX 5700 Red Dragon is the first of the RX 5700-series cards from board partners that we'll be looking at, with others to follow in short order. Until now, we've only had the AMD reference 5700 with blower, but now we can look at reference vs. partner cards. The Red Dragon is among the cheaper board partner models, making it viable and competitive with the 2060 Super.
    Article: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwrevie...dragon-review-benchmark-overclocking-thermals


    Ryzen & Thunderbolt - Together At LAST!
    Level1Techs
    Published on Sep 12, 2019
    Thunderbolt AM4 Build


    More takes on the AMD beta / soon to release firmware features:

    AMD improves real-world boost and idle on Ryzen 3000
    The extra 25-50MHz boost speed probably means less than the lower idle, really.
    JIM SALTER - 9/11/2019, 12:24 PM
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/09/amd-improves-real-world-boost-and-idle-on-ryzen-3000/
    Reader Comments

    TomWestrick, SEP 12, 2019 4:49 AM
    "Legatum_of_Kain wrote:
    "Yep, as a matter of fact, I have a machine that's a 6700K that does not get to the advertised speeds at all, even overclocking it, it's off by about 40 mhz.

    AMD is just getting hammered because there's a lot of people at Intel and using Intel that are having a meltdown on the overall value of the new AMD chips."
    Pun intended?"

    AMD ANNOUNCES RYZEN BIOS UPDATES FOR BOOST AND IDLE, NEW SDK
    Posted by Sebastian Peak | Sep 10, 2019
    https://pcper.com/2019/09/amd-ryzen-bios-updates-new-sdk/
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    AMD issues updated BIOS to fix Ryzen boost bug, promising up to 50MHz more boost
    A new monitoring SDK will also make an appearance, providing fine-grained insights into what's going on under the hood of your Ryzen 3000 processor.
    https://www.pcworld.com/article/343...ost-bug-promising-up-to-50mhz-more-boost.html
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    RBD10100 AMD Ryzen 3600X | Radeon VII | ASUS B350-F STRIX 1 point 21 hours ago
    "Just watched Gamers Nexus and their 3700X is maintaining 4.4 GHz in Cinebench 1 thread, and the 3900X actually did the 4.6GHz during some of the test, but it falls to 4.4 GHz at times they said. Still, it looks like things improved on their samples. It's holding 4.6GHz in the Total Warhammer game they tested. Here's hoping yours reaches higher too."
    AMD Ryzen Boost Frequency Fix Benchmarked: AGESA ABBA Tested - Snowflake Edition
    Gamers Nexus
    Published on Sep 12, 2019
    AMD has released AGESA "ABBA" with Ryzen 3000 boosting frequency fixes for the R9 3900X, 3700X, and other recent CPUs. We're benchmarking it. AMD's new AGESA update is now out [No, he's using a leaked BETA not a released version, that will be 2-3+ weeks before the release version comes out from motherboard makers] to motherboard manufacturers, and each of them will soon be adding it to BIOS revisions for boards. The new AGESA version (ABBA) includes frequency fixes, so our focus for testing will be: (1) if frequency is actually higher, (2) if there's any voltage or temperature impact as a result, (3) how much that change impacts some gaming or production performance.
     
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    AMD “will consider adding support” for RIS on Vega, but has no plans to right now

    https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/vega-radeon-image-sharpening

    Seriously?
    They skip this on the grounds of 'popularity'?
    Meh... I'm starting to think AMD decided to shun Vega completely (which might explain latest driver problems Helios 500 users experience with static noise on screen when bringing the laptop out of sleep mode and some other issue desktop users experienced).
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    AMD's got so many actions to fill with staff that they need to limit things somewhere draw the line and deciding whether to continue a new feature across the product lines is one thing that makes sense - they can delay for resources for VEGA while watching for feature acceptance and use with high use it will be an easy justification for allocating those resources.

    To you and me it initially makes sense to push out a new feature across all the GPU architectures at once to ensure acceptance with developers to encorporate in new games - but with RIS it's a tool that doesn't need developer buy-in it needs customer buy-in, and hopefully it is useful and does get high acceptance and use, and AMD can justify quickly pushing out RIS for Vega.

    I'm more interested in the next generation Navi and beyond and I want AMD to not delay that more than not delaying RIS for Vega - if one really affects the other - only time will tell.

    And, yes Vega in laptops would seem to be much larger than initially comes to mind, with the Vega in APC's + Consoles + future use, but it may be Vega is a minor part moving forward so it's getting pushed to the end of the resource allocation list, and that's what is happening.

    AMD confirms it has no plans to add Radeon Image Sharpening to Vega but "will consider adding support" should there be demand
    Submitted 18 hours ago by ninjap0wz Nitro+ RX 580 | i5 4590
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/d3rt3x/amd_confirms_it_has_no_plans_to_add_radeon_image/

    Interesting video digging in to VEGA and Navi architecture:

    NAVI vs VEGA: Architectures
    Naoki Watanabe
    Published on Aug 29, 2019
    Vega slow? Navi fast? We look at the differences between GCN & RDNA and why they matter to gaming.
     
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  5. Deks

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    This is apparently where AMD has Feedback support to see how much interest there is in expanding certain features on their GPU's (but nothing for specific GPU's).
    https://www.feedback.amd.com/se/5A1E27D203B57D32

    Radeon Image Sharpening and Anti-Lag would be my top ones... but we can apparently include vote for ALL of those features (except I don't particularly find much interest in the Gallery one).
     
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    Answered here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...zen-2-helios-500.817796/page-74#post-10950995
     
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    Zymphad Zymphad

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    Anyone know for Ryzen 2 PBO if you use negative offset same as Ryzen + ?

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  8. tilleroftheearth

    tilleroftheearth Wisdom listens quietly...

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    See:
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/1487...gning-perception-with-amds-frequency-metrics-

    See:
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-fix-cores,40398.html


    The saga continues (AMD achieving parity with Intel platforms in all aspects).

    What is interesting is how we have to learn new definitions for what 'Turbo' is.

    More interesting is that AMD doesn't even have a handle on their terminology or execution either (second link). :)

    I'm sure it will sort out in the end (but this gives Intel an open door to implement even weirder 'definitions' too).

    As long as my workloads/workflows (as anyone else's, of course) continue to improve, definitions be damned! :D

    As usual, don't buy into the marketing fluff (from either side). Doing your own testing on your own workload(s) and workflow(s) and seeing actual improvements over what you are currently running is all that matters in the end. That is what you buy/spend your $$$$ on. Not the 'feelies' that marketing people try to sell you on. ;)
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    You mean like Intel did with TDP and would do whenever convenient for them and their marketing team? Yep.
     
  10. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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    He referenced similar shenanigans, both actual and potential, from Intel:

     
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