AMD Vega is here...

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  1. don_svetlio

    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    I still find it funny how upset people are now but when the 580/480 were using literally 2x the power of their competitors, nobody cared.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Are you sure? I thought there was that big hullabaloo with the RX480 Reference edition pulling too much power from the PCI bus?

    There were people / reviewers that complained about the power draw, but RX 64 really goes further into power extreme's than RX 480 / RX 580 ever went.

    Really there needs to be an AMD OC update that recommends limiting power to a point of sanity, even if there are small performance gains by going further.

    I'm glad AMD didn't lock it down, but leaving it unlocked is resulting in reviewers and owners blowing the doors off with over powering these cards.

    Limiting the power to a reasonable limit will lose some performance numbers, but I don't think gamers are really gonna miss a few FPS if they can cut power usage by 100w-200w. :)
     
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    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    People still bought more 480s than 5870s. Why? Cause Nvidia.
     
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    Carrot Top Notebook Evangelist

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    LOLwut

    5870 (188-228W) vs. 470 (215W)

    6970 (250W) vs 570 (219W)
     
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    TheReciever D! For Dragon!

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    The solution is still, open a door or a window.

    If thats not feasible then perhaps you shouldnt be looking into computers that dump enough heat to make your room a temp sauna box.
     
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  6. don_svetlio

    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    5870s were never 220W. They average 180-190W under load. Meanwhile, GTX 480s were going as high as 350W and if you even touch voltage they'd skyrocket into 400W territory. Everyone basically agrees that the GPU power draw records are a tie between Vega 64 OC and GTX 480/580
     
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  7. Support.2@XOTIC PC

    Support.2@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    It gets just cold enough in the winter here to make me consider it. But not enough for me to actually do it.
     
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    TheReciever D! For Dragon!

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    In the winter I would just crack the window a bit, dont want to generate condensation pending your climate...
     
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    228W TGP is what AMD listed for the 5870 2GB and Eyefinity Edition. In practice they didn't draw much more than the 1GB card.

    5870 and 6970 competed in same price and performance tier as 470 and 570, not 480 and 580.

    480 didn't draw that much by itself, you're probably talking total system draw. (Unthrottled FurMark might be different story but that's a bad example.)

    Nvidia listed TGP was on the conservative side for Fermi (esp. 480 very conservative as it was closer to 300W than 250W), but difference vs. AMD competitors wasn't that big:

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    Edit: Don't forget that 480's draw was exacerbated by its poor reference cooler which made it run extremely hot, something Nvidia fixed with 580.
     
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    The 580 vs 6970 yes, the 580 was in a different class. The 480, however, was barely 5-10% faster than a 5870 and used a LOT more power. We're talking as much power as the 5970 dual-GPU. The original 480s had horrible silicon and horrible binning because of the size. Fermi 1 was a failure, a colossal one at that. Yet people still bought it. Why? Because branding is far and away more important than the product you are selling
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