AMD Vega is here...

Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by HTWingNut, Aug 14, 2017.

  1. Support.2@XOTIC PC

    Support.2@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    I've held similar position for a while, but value is as always in perception, and as long as there's that bubble of people who want it to have value and back it up, it's not going to change.
     
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    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    Apparently Vega FE doesn't have the same instruction sets as RX Vega. RX Vega has more and performs better in certain compute tasks, but I have yet to see AMD or someone else mention that they are different and Vega FE is missing some stuff.
     
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    Also 16GB of HBM2 memory on the FE.
     
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    That's just memory. Shouldn't make a difference. I'm more concerned about the actual GPU die being different internally.

    I'm just going to assume they're the same, don't know why the hashcat developer is claiming they're different GPU chips (my friend told me this).

    It's like saying Vega FE is GP100 and RX Vega is GP102 in nVidia terms.

    I found a good deal on Vega FE and didn't want to be surprised a month or two later down the road that they're different. That's why I'm questioning all this now. :D
     
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  5. don_svetlio

    don_svetlio In the Pipe, Five by Five.

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    Memory which costs almost as much as the GPU itself :D
     
  6. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    Now it is, get a big enough run and the cost will come down.
     
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    And HBM3 is right around the corner.

    More HBM2 vendors are right about to enter the market (supposedly) so the price should be driven down.


    On top of all that, AMD is sucking all of the HBM2 markets so dry, that on top of the exceeding prices of the Vega cards, HBM2 prices are also slowly rising!
     
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    If that's right and more manufacturers are jumping on board, that's a good sign.
     
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    TheReciever D! For Dragon!

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    Last time I cared about power consumption outside of laptops was X58, we are way past that era.

    My personal opinion is that we have an option in the higher end (people debate what is high end) and dont wish to support nvidia's practices have an option now.

    Though the miners will likely soak them all up before any market target consumers can get them.
     
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    Carrot Top Notebook Evangelist

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    It's still a lot of extra heat being dumped into the room. And it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal if the gap with Nvidia isn't as large as it's ever been, historically.
     
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    Having had a w3520 @ 4.2ghz and a tri sli GTX 470 system back in the day. I know full well about heat dump. However I doubt I would be able to perceive the difference if I shut off a GPU since the issue is circulation.

    I open a door if it gets too warm. Even my laptop can heat up the room after some time.
     
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