AMD Ryzen 9 5950X and 5900X faster than Intel at gaming?

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  1. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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  2. Papusan

    Papusan TURDBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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    Not so fast. Depends if you can get one at MSRP:)

    Scalpers Strike Again, Ryzen 5000 Processors Impossible to Find In stock tomshardware.com

    Unfortunately, scalpers have once again stolen the show and bought as much volume as they can, and availability for any Ryzen 5000 series CPUs is almost impossible to find.

    The scalpers are again, using eBay as their base of operations and have pushed prices of the 5000 series CPUs well over MSRP.

    According to Ebay, you can buy the Ryzen 9 5950X for an absurd $1,699.99 from one of the several listings, "fortunately" most of the 5950X listings are more "reasonable" ranging between $1,050 and $1,200.

    Stepping down to the Ryzen 9 5900X the most expensive listings touch the $1,000 mark while most hover in the $800-$900 range. The cheapest listing that we found comes in at $612 for a pre-ordered model. That's not too bad considering its only a $63 price hike.
     
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  3. Tyranus07

    Tyranus07 Notebook Evangelist

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    In part I blame people who are buying at that prices. eBay is nothing else than supply and demand, if the price is doubling is because some people are buying at those prices. I been following RTX 3080 auctions on eBay and people are paying over $1K for the freaking card. $300 over the MSRP. I'm not paying a penny over over MSRP for the 3080 even if I have to wait to the middle of next year or more, lol
     
  4. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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    I mentioned it in another thread, but for many, even paying a thousand+ over MSRP is a nothing burger to them for many reasons and they have no problems paying those inflated prices. Like you said, supply and demand. I'll never pay over MSRP for anything and most times will wait to pay BELOW MSRP.

    But if you have the funds, reasons or whatever and can't wait and want it NOW....well, go right ahead. I'll be waiting for you to regret it or moving onto the next big thing and buy it from you at a discount when all the hype dies down. :)
     
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  5. Tyranus07

    Tyranus07 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah is up to debate, but, people are paying a lot over MSRP for no logical reason other than bragging rights. Personally I don't care about bragging rights I only care about functionality. In my case if I catch a 2080 Ti or a 2080 Super at a good price I'll get it and in the future I'll get a RTX 3080 or a 6800XT when prices come back to MSRP or lower. A well overclocked 2080 Ti can be as good as a stock RTX 3080. I mean is not like playing games with a 2080 Ti you'd be playing at bad frame rates, lol.

    There is no reason to pay over MSRP for tech hardware from an economic point of view nor tech point of view, just from a psychological point of view it might worth.
     
  6. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    It's OK guys. The way I looked at it, that simply wasn't worth debating so I just responded in a diplomatic manner.

    I have seen both AMD and Intel CPUs selling for WAY MORE than the MSRP. That is super-stupid and it only happens because people are stupid and scalpers take advantage of stupid people. In the end, it hurts all of us whether we are stupid or just an unfortunate victim that ends up being adversely affected by the stupidity of those around us.

    At times it is nearly impossible to buy one for the correct price. In the end it doesn't really change anything. I'm only going to buy what I want to buy and I will pay more for what I want rather than accept something I do not want simply because it is a better value in the opinion of some people. The way I see it, if a product doesn't do what I want it to do, then there is no logical reason to entertain the idea of buying it. Doing so would be a waste of money.

    Removing the reference to price in the comments that I posted ultimately changes nothing. Intel overclocks CPU and RAM nicely and it is a fun product to own if you enjoy overclocking. AMD sucks at overclocking CPU and RAM (and GPU as well) and if you enjoy overclocking AMD is not the right brand for the job. It's that simple. If AMD products responded favorably to overclocking, there is a pretty decent chance I would want one. And, if I wanted it badly enough, I'd probably pay more than it is worth to get it. I wouldn't like that and it would tick me off, but that is better than the option of settling for something that is unable to meet my expectations based only on its price being less.
     
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    while the boys gets their hands on the multi cores mega chips...

    ...the subtile dutch lady gets her first contact with the subtile chip!​
     
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    What most these ppl doesn't realize or recognize, is how attention grabbing they're as well as how long does it take for a new designed/engineered/developed product to kick of the old one...and here I'm referring to one that's only just a year age gap.
    The jump of desktop CPU model reference from 3xxx to 5xxx is just a... numbering thing from AMD. Certainly, and undeniably, there should be a performance increase to accompany with that leap of increment. Sellers scalp buyers because most of the time due to buyers stupidity of not realizing that manufacturing and production of the launched products is still going on in other regions where they are recovering from the pandemic situations... Why rush when there's going to be supplies from the factories tomorrow?
     
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    I’m not gonna argue that the 5900X and 5950X are both fast processors. But, some of the numbers from reviews are very wrong.

    I saw a bone stock Ryzen 5950X beating a overclocked Intel 10980XE that was running 4.8Ghz on all cores. And thought, wow! That’s amazing! The 5950X is a monster.


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    Until I ran the test on my own 7980XE at 4.8Ghz which has slightly slower IPC than the 10980XE.


    Here are my results. Not really sure what’s up with that review. But, it’s very misleading to a lot of people. And it makes me question the results in all of the testing.


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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Seems like TS doesn’t utilize all cores/threads.
     
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