All Things Android - Apps, Phones, Tablets - Discussion

Discussion in 'Smartphones and Tablets' started by H.A.L. 9000, Aug 1, 2010.

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  1. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Google made a mess of Lollipop. My Nexus 6 used to take like 5 minutes to boot, no joke. Graphics performance wasn't a huge issue but 5.1 still stutters, most likely it is the resolution that's my problem though.

    Adreno was ATi's Imageon tech before Qualcomm bought it so it is no surprise they are such capable GPUs. I can't wait for the Tegra M1 though. The question is will anyone use it, however...

    The S6 would be a no brainer for me if it had front facing speakers. Apparently the Note 5 is rumored to have them though so if that pans out, I'll likely switch to the Note 5 especially if Qualcomm hasn't sorted their silicon.
     
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    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Hence one of the big reasons I chose an M8 over an S5 (other than KNOX and TouchWiz). I can't see any benefit in having such high rez screen on these devices. Stuffing 2560x1440 into a 5" screen means it will always take a big portion of the SoC to drive it. I really can't tell the difference between my sister's LG G3 screen and my M8 other than the G3's screen is wider.

    I wish Nvidia would put out another Shield Tablet with their new M1. The Shield with the K1 I got to play on was awesome. I came very close to buying one just to see how well it could run FPse.
     
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    A lot of journalists prematurely reported it to have a big.LITTLE architecture, most likely shrugging 'true octa-core' off as HMP capability. In their defense, MediaTek hides the core type on their own site to distance their high-performance part from the rest of their portfolio.

    2K doesn't increase performance, and although the MT6795 has a few more tricks up its sleeves than the MT6752, I'm left looking at clock speeds and how it's usually paired with better memory once again.

    http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/07...cortex-a57a53-processor-to-launch-in-q4-2014/
     
  4. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Are you sure it wasn't because of that encryption in 5.0 that were on devices that shipped out with Lollipop? Also I noticed that with my Nexus 7 (which REALLY annoyed me because I turn it off every night), Lollipop makes it take FOREVER to boot. Samsung's boot is actually quite fast with the stock 4.4.4 image.
     
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    I spent hours removing the forced encryption from it (such a pain, had to manually backup everything to my desktop with adb which took literally hours and to even get that started I had to flash an insecure boot image with fastboot then I had to flash the factory image to get the new radio and bootloader then I had to wipe the device again to remove the encryption and finally load the custom recovery and push a stock rooted rom that had force encrypt turned off, really ticked me off) and it made a negligible difference in boot time. 5.1 fixed the boot issues. My Nexus 7 on 5.0.2 still boots faster than the Nexus 6 did before 5.1 despite its ancient hardware.

    Well that's what I had thought as well which is why it got confusing digging for info. I wonder if there aren't two versions though, one using big.LITTLE that was scrapped in favor of the true octacore? Either way, A53 cores are too weak for a high performance chip, Android doesn't exactly have perfect SMP.

    That is officially way too big. Google got it perfect for me with the Nexus 6.
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    Holy moly that sounds like a pain to do. Will Google be doing encryption on for all Lollipop devices going forward (like in Nexus devices)? What about other OEMs?
     
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    As of now it's OEM choice. It wouldn't be a big deal if they made a way to decrypt the device without having to wipe it. It has its benefits though. Like now when someone steals your phone, as long as the bootloader isn't unlocked if the person does a factory reset, it keeps the device locked until you log in with your Google account rendering mobile theft useless. Of course without root, I can't keep transferring all my apps and data from phone to phone so that's a big no go for me since I've been transferring apps since my HTC Hero which was the second android phone lol.
     
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    radji Farewell, Solenya...

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    Fat chance of that happening. I remember an article on Phone Scoop detailing how Google's making internal NAND encryption active by default starting with lollipop.
     
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    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    I poked around the Nexus 6 at the T-Mobile store when it had 5.0.2 and 5.1, I don't see a massive increase in performance, but I didn't have too long to poke around with it. A very meh thing is the battery life, it seems Google does not seem to care about battery life as much (but now the Nexus 6 has top tier specs as well as a top tier price tag to go along). I'm still rather irked by Motorola not rolling out Lollipop on 1st gen Moto devices as promised (Moto X, G, E, my fiance has the Moto G 4G LTE variant). I hope Sony does the soak tests for the Z3V too.
     
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