All about Bezel-less and Foldable Smart Devices

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  1. Dr. AMK

    Dr. AMK Living with Hope

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    Samsung Galaxy Fold Unboxing
     
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    Galaxy Fold Hands-On: The Folding Phone Is Back!
    MrMobile [Michael Fisher]
    Published on Apr 15, 2019
    There was a time when almost every phone was a folding phone, and you know what? I wish we’d never left those days behind. A folding phone is petite when you pocket it, full-sized when you flip it out – and as a bonus, it protects those important interior bits when you close it back up. The trouble is, no one’s been able to figure out how to give you the benefits of a big phone with the portability of a small one … until now. This is the Galaxy Fold from Samsung, and it’s about to flip the smartphone world inside-out.


    Samsung Galaxy Fold hands-on: Bridging the gap between tablet and phone

    Android Central
    Published on Apr 15, 2019
    Samsung's long-awaited #GalaxyFold is finally here, and it folds down from a 7.3-inch tablet to a 4.6-inch phone. It's one of the most eye-catching phones in years, and while there are tradeoffs as you'd expect from a first-generation product, we're loving what we see. More Galaxy Fold coverage @ https://www.androidcentral.com/samsun...
     
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    CNBC's Samsung Galaxy Fold test phone breaks after two days
    CNBC Television
    Published on Apr 17, 2019
    CNBC's Todd Haselton joins the "Closing Bell" team with an update on his testing of the new foldable Samsung phone.
    https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1118595724072112129


    Alan Modracek‏ @AlanModracek 2h 2 hours ago
    Replying to @CNBC @robotodd
    "All phones are foldable if you’re strong enough"

    Yikes. Can we talk about the Samsung Galaxy Fold?
    FRONT PAGE TECH
    Published on Apr 17, 2019
    EP. 830 - Yikes. Can we talk about the Samsung Galaxy Fold?
    Galaxy Fold videos have started coming out from other YouTubers who have the phone and it... still looks like a bad idea.
     
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    tl;dr, Warning!, Don't remove the integral "screen protector"; Don't peel it off !!

    Samsung Galaxy Fold Phones Are Breaking
    Lew Later
    Published on Apr 17, 2019
    Some Samsung Galaxy Fold smartphones are having issues. The Galaxy Fold is likely more delicate than a typical smartphone.


    re: Galaxy Folds are Breaking
    Jonathan Morrison
    Published on Apr 17, 2019
    Broken Samsung Galaxy Folds are everywhere. My thoughts on the problems, chaos and if Samsung can bounce back from Galaxy Fold screens breaking all over the place.
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/17/18...


    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-random-picture-thread.698755/page-920#post-10898202
     
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    Don't know if it's been covered already, but some of the reviewers who discovered display issues with the Galaxy Fold didn't remove the pre-installed screen protector. Samsung has only stated the direct purpose of the "top protective layer" is to protect against scratches, aka a regular screen protector, while insinuating the removal of it "may cause damage" (scratches?). Kudos to Samsung for daring to innovate with risky, new foldable tech. They truly are at the forefront of mobile OLED technology, but things like this can still happen. Good thing the Fold is even more of a niche product than the Note 7 and that the fault was discovered before it started shipping to consumers.

    https://hexus.net/ce/news/mobile-ph...ung-galaxy-fold-hinge-screen-lack-durability/
    https://9to5google.com/2019/04/17/samsung-galaxy-fold-display-statement/
     
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    Yup, there have been some "un-peeled" screen failures as well. The peeling seems to assure failure though, so something the retail version warns against wasn't mentioned to the reviewers - so some pulled off the plastic integral screen protector and to their horror found immediate failures along with delayed failures - which is weird to me, why would a reviewer peel off plastic from the screen or otherwise physically alter the device - maybe they get to keep them?

    I know others have recommended on previous phone / tablet models to remove that integral factory screen protector layer for bright more vibrant display results, but for me I'm fine with not screwing with pulling off a heat sealed layer that might pull up a layer below it - which is what it sounds like is happening with the Samsung Fold Screen.

    Especially with a new flexible / foldable screen, who in their right mind is going to start peeling off layers of that magical new screen? Sheesh!!

    It's too bad Samsung got stung by this abuse of their hardware.
     
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    While I also think it's best to leave a factory installed screen protector installed, any plastic screen protector will eventually have to be replaced since they are more susceptible to wear than the Gorilla Glass usually found underneath. Many prefer to remove it because of slight interference with picture quality, but also better finger slide characteristics and less smudging until the oleophobic coating wears off. I think calling the removal of said film "hardware abuse" might be a bit too much, if it is indeed a peelable, user-replacable protective film similar to what's found on the S10, S10 Plus and OnePlus phones. Now, the Galaxy Fold is of course a different beast – it has a softer glass substrate that can handle being folded, so maybe it's mandatory to keep a screen protector on at all times, but damage from simply peeling the standard one off? That doesn't sound right to me and I think there's more to what we're seeing. The fact that Bohn saw the same type of damage despite not having removed the screen protector from his review sample would back up that notion.

    Whatever the culprit turns out to be, I hope Samsung can deliver the phones without severe delay. The Galaxy Fold is a highly intriguing product, considering how long we've lived with flat, unfoldable slates.
     
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    There is no Gorilla glass underneath in this layered flexible screen.

    The peelable layer in this case appears to be non-replaceable, an integral part of the layers for functional support.

    That's the difference here. Just because you can pick up an edge and get it to peel doesn't mean it's an optional or replaceable layer. I do consider it as abuse to remove an integral functional layer of the flexible screen.

    In the non-flexible screens I think it's also abuse as it's not easily replaceable - can you order a replacement for the integral layer in those screens after peeling it off only to find you preferred it on as originally shipped?

    This "nervous habit" gives way to "picking apart" functional layered components "just because", which has no technical merit - done just because you can.

    There's likely more to be revealed about this layer at some point, I'll post it here if I see it.

    Update: "It's part of the display structure", "don't remove it!"

    Samsung Galaxy Fold screens are already breaking
    CNET
    Published on Apr 18, 2019
    Samsung Galaxy Fold review unit users are seeing some major issues with the foldable screen breaking. We peel back the layers of problems being reported by early users of the phone. Read more about the Galaxy Fold's screen issues here: https://cnet.co/2vdJGBH
    Samsung Galaxy Fold: Hands-on:
    https://youtu.be/4I5Fr5S6NGA
    Galaxy Fold unboxing: Samsung goes big:
    https://youtu.be/iHR9xDW9Cgc

    Bridget Carey on Twitter: https://bit.ly/2XsQSpP

    #Samsung #GalaxyFold #CNET


    Update: The Retail Units have a warning to not remove it.
    dont peel off the integral protective layer.jpg
    Update: Samsung response...
    why dont peel off the integral protective layer.jpg

    The Broken Galaxy Folds: Explained!
    Marques Brownlee
    Published on Apr 18, 2019
    PSA: Several Galaxy Folds have already broken. Here's what's happening.
     
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    Look at All These ****ed Up Galaxy Folds [Updated]
    Hudson Hongo, Wednesday 3:13pm
    https://gizmodo.com/look-at-all-these-****ed-up-galaxy-folds-1834118147

    "Just days after Samsung gave its $2,000 foldable smartphone to reviewers, a troubling number of journalists say their Galaxy Fold units are all jacked up.

    Reporters at CNBC, The Verge, and Bloomberg have all tweeted images showing seemingly distinct problems with the Galaxy Fold—although in the last case, the reviewer may have helped **** up the phone himself.

    "There’s something pressing up against the screen at the hinge, right there in the crease,” wrote The Verge’s Dieter Bohn, describing a problem with the Galaxy Fold review unit he initially received. “It’s a distressing thing to discover just two days after receiving my review unit. More distressing is that the bulge eventually pressed sharply enough into the screen to break it. "

    Perhaps the worst apparent issue, however, was experienced by CNBC’s Steve Kovach, who shared a video of the Galaxy Fold’s screen flickering erratically after “one day of use.” On Twitter, Kovach said he did “nothing” to the phone: “just unfolded it!"

    Tech YouTuber Marques Brownlee said his Galaxy Fold’s screen died after he, too, tried to peel off the screen film. For what it’s worth, Gizmodo has not had any issues with our review unit so far. But at 2,000 bucks a piece, it’s certainly worrying to see so many problems with the phone so soon. The device is expected to ship to consumers later this month.

    Update 4/18/2019 8:30 a.m. ET:
    In a statement to Gizmodo, Samsung pledged to “thoroughly inspect” the Galaxy Fold units returned by reviewers with screen problems to “determine the cause of the matter.” Additionally, the company identified the screen film ****ups as a separate issue, and said it would “clearly” inform customers that the film should not be removed. From Samsung:

    A limited number of early Galaxy Fold samples were provided to media for review. We have received a few reports regarding the main display on the samples provided. We will thoroughly inspect these units in person to determine the cause of the matter.

    Separately, a few reviewers reported having removed the top layer of the display causing damage to the screen. The main display on the Galaxy Fold features a top protective layer, which is part of the display structure designed to protect the screen from unintended scratches. Removing the protective layer or adding adhesives to the main display may cause damage. We will ensure this information is clearly delivered to our customers."

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-random-picture-thread.698755/page-920#post-10898202
     
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    Zack aka JerryRigeverything do your magic....
     
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