All about 5G Technologies

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  1. The Strategist

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    Most companies can not tell the truth for security reasons and/or commercial reasons that may amount to personal threats to them and their families to death or abuse. The plots behind these stories is much larger than the media wants us to see.
    All of this is just a small part of the intelligence war.
     
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    22:03 - Fearing Cancer From 5G, Portland City Council May Ask FCC to Investigate

    Fearing Cancer From 5G, Portland City Council May Ask FCC to Investigate

    "This substantial increase in cell towers deployed in communities means greater contact with them."
    By Peter Hess on March 12, 2019
    https://www.inverse.com/article/53991-portland-oregon-city-council-and-mayor-oppose-fcc-on-5g

    "Fearing unknown health risks, members of the City Council in Portland, Oregon, will vote Wednesday to oppose the rollout of 5G wireless networks.

    In a proposed resolution, Mayor Ted Wheeler, along with Commissioners Chloe Eudaly and Amanda Fritz, write that there’s evidence suggesting wireless networks can cause health problems — including cancer.

    They express concern that the Federal Communications Commission has not conducted enough research to demonstrate that 5G networks are safe, while at the same time prohibiting state and local governments from passing their own regulations on telecommunications technology.

    And while Wheeler, Eudaly, and Fritz are correct about the FCC’s power to dictate how state and local governments manage wireless networks, the connection between 5G networks and cancer is a lot more complicated than they say it is.

    What Does the Science Say About 5G and Cancer?
    “There is evidence to suggest that exposure to radio frequency emissions generated by wireless technologies could contribute to adverse health conditions such as cancer,” reads the proposed resolution. This evidence comes from a large-scale study conducted by the National Toxicology Program (NTP), a division of the US Department of Health and Human Services.

    The final results of this study, published in November 2018, showed a strong association between the type of radiation used for mobile phone signals and certain types of cancerous tumors in lab rats.

    But that’s where the situation gets tough.
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    How 4G antennas broadcast signals compared to how 5G antennas beam signals across a city.

    The NTP study, which took place over 10 years and involved exposing more than 7,000 rats and mice to radio-frequency radiation — the type used in cell phones — didn’t actually involve 5G networks. It didn’t even involve 4G or 4G LTE, which are used today. It focused only on signals used by wireless technology under the 2G and 3G standards.

    These technology standards, which use the same radiation frequency range as 4G, modulate the signal differently. 2G and 3G may have been the state-of-the-art when the study began, but since large-scale studies on cancer take a long time to identify statistically significant effects, the technology has undergone multiple evolutions in the intervening time. So as Inversepreviously reported, it’s nearly impossible to say whether these results will apply to 5G hardware.

    Since the available research doesn’t address 5G, the Portland City Council’s resolution demands that the FCC embark on another such research project to assess the health effects of 5G. Presumably, it would take just as long to conduct another study on the hypothesized connection between 5G and cancer, but by that time, the industry will almost certainly have moved on to 6G — or 7G.
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    By the time studies show whether 5G causes cancer, it probably won't be the industry standard anymore.

    Local Versus Federal Regulations
    The Portland City Council’s resolution is just as much about local control as it is about the uncertain connection between 5G and cancer, though.

    In their resolution, Wheeler, Eudaly, and Fritz express dismay that federal law prevents state and local governments from refusing federal mandates on telecommunications standards.

    FCC regulations also require state and local governments to accept all telecom companies’ applications to build new wireless communication infrastructure. The mayor and the city council members are wary of what federal control over this massive wireless network overhaul will mean for their constituents’ exposure to 5G frequencies.

    “Wireless companies in the U.S. say they’ll have to install about 300,000 new antennas, close to the total number of cell towers built over the past three decades,” they write. “This substantial increase in cell towers deployed in communities means greater contact with them.”

    Of course, this exposure is only harmful if 5G is found to affect human health. And unfortunately, the only way to figure that out would be for the FCC or DHHS to conduct another large-scale trial — a trial that wouldn’t be done in time to matter, since 5G is practically knocking on the door.

    That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be studied, though. And in fact, a small but growing movement of European scientists is calling for caution amid the dawning of 5G networks around the world, arguing that the available data on the health risks of cell phone radiation should be cause enough for everyone to slow down.

    Wednesday will bring the results of the Portland City Council’s vote, which could set the tone for how the federal government responds to public concerns about the health effects of 5G networks — as well as state and local governments’ demands to set their own standards.

    Whatever happens in Portland, it seems clear that this proposed resolution is just a preview of the growing opposition movement against 5G."
     
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    The push for 5G is all about getting people to spend more, recurring income for everything. No more apps on your phone they'll all be a service for which you have to pay monthly. All media will become streamed media, phones won't even offer storage anymore. It's difficult for me to believe anyone could be simple enough to think 5G is about user satisfaction. It's purpose is to shoot fish in a 5G barrel.
     
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    A 5G World Is on the Horizon, But How Will It Work?
    Seeker
    Published on Mar 16, 2019
    The rumors of a 5G wireless network, with the fastest connectivity we've ever experienced, is finally coming this year.
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    Qualcomm already has a new 5G chip that promises sleeker, long-lasting phones
    https://www.cnet.com/g00/news/qualcom...
    "Issue a command now on a smartphone — like starting a web search — and the response isn’t exactly immediate. A lag of 50 to several hundred milliseconds is common, partly because signals often must pass between different carrier switching centers; 5G, which uses newer networking technology, was designed to reduce latency down to a few milliseconds."

    Yes, 5G will cost you more
    https://arstechnica.com/information-t...
    "We can tell you that 5G Moto Mod users will experience ultra-fast speeds, be able to download and stream movies in seconds, and, due to 5G's low latency, they'll be able to video conference and collaborate remotely in near real-time," Verizon told Ars, when asked for specific speed and latency numbers. "While we have been clear that 5G service will be a significant [upgrade] over 4G LTE when it comes to speed and latency, we'll provide expected network performance information closer to launch."

    What Is 5G? Here’s What You Need to Know About the New Network
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/te...
    "The 5G speeds will be particularly noticeable in higher-quality streaming video. And downloading a typical movie at the median speeds cited by Qualcomm would take 17 seconds with 5G, compared with six minutes for 4G."


    Could 5G put more kids at risk for cancer?
    RT America
    Published on Mar 14, 2019
    As the race to 5G technology continues around the world, US representatives have voiced public safety concerns and urged the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to postpone auctioning the rights to 5G development. Experts also say that 5G will also pose serious health risks. RT America’s Sara Montes de Oca joins Scottie Nell Hughes with the details.
     
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    Frank Clegg: Wireless Tech Forum Making Technology Safe
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Mar 20, 2019
    Frank Clegg is Microsoft Canada President now retired who started the non profit Canadians for Safe Technology http://c4st.org This lecture is from a Forum sponsored by State Senator Colbeck


    Dr. Paul Heroux: Biological Mechanisms of Wireless Health Effects
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Mar 20, 2019
    Wireless is linked to inflammation. Dr. Paul Heroux Professor of Toxicology and Health Effects of Electromagnetism at McGill University in Montreal, Canada https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-p...

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    Dr. Miller: The Body of Evidence Linking Cell Phone and Wireless to Cancer
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Mar 20, 2019
    Senator Colbeck sponsored a 5G and Wireless and Health Forum December 2018 Dr. Anthony Miller is a physician and epidemiologist. Dr. Anthony Miller is currently Professor Emeritus at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health, University of Toronto. He has served as Director of the Epidemiology Unit of the National Cancer Institute of Canada, Chair of the Department of Preventive Medicine and Biostatistics, University of Toronto, Senior Epidemiologist, International Agency for Research on Cancer, and Head, Division of Cancer Epidemiology, German Cancer Research Centre, 2000-03; consultant to the Division of Cancer Prevention, U.S. National Cancer Institute and to the World Health Organization.
     
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    Storage demands will be double since everyone will stream atleast in 2k/4K 60 FPS on 5G because of huge speed. First gen 5G will be test phase and subsequent versions will be battery efficient.
     
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    What you need to know about 5G
    CBS News
    Published on Feb 21, 2019
    CNET senior producer Dan Patterson joins CBSN to explain 5G, the next generation of faster wireless technology, and how it will enable a vast expansion of connected devices.


    5G Health Effects Discussed at National Institutes of Heath Electromagnetic Radiation Conference
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Sep 20, 2018
    NIH Panel Discussion on 5G July 2018. Learn more at https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-p...


    US Senator Blumenthal Raises Concerns on 5G Wireless Technology Health Risks at Senate Hearing
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Feb 8, 2019
    Health Effects Research on 5G and Wireless at https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-p...


    Opposition to 5G at Michigan Statehouse Testimony
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Mar 10, 2018
    This testimony is asking to halt a Bill that will placed 5G small cells in neighborhoods.
     
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    Nope. You will have only enough storage to cache minutes ahead, possibly seconds, once 5G rules the land. Storage defeats the single greatest reason and primary purpose for 5G from the perspective of the corporate boy wonders who are already counting your money.
     
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    I think 128GB will be standard because caching those amount of downstreams isn't possible if you pair it with 16GB or 32GB smart-phone.
    They only cache in few mins but the amount of writes will be more than we did write on PCs few decades ago.
     
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    Is 5G Safe?
    CNBC
    Published on Mar 27, 2019
    You are being exposed to radiation right now. It’s coming at you from both space and the soil. From water and food. Your body itself is radioactive. And you’re being exposed to microwaves and radio waves, both natural and human-made. WiFi. TV. Radio stations. Cellphones. 3G, 4G and now, 5G.

    5G is just getting started. Qualcomm, Samsung, Verizon, LG, Sprint — all these companies and more are right now working to build out the 5G ecosystem. But there is a spreading fear that 5G will cause cancer. Here's why scientific consensus says 5G is safe and will not harm humans.
     
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