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  1. Dr. AMK

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    Yes, but it's not about locations anymore, IoT, All smart devices and technologies, AI, ML, Bigdata, Cloud computing ,,,etc They all need more bandwidth to be effective. They don't care about human health, it's all about Intelligence and more control. Even the whales in the oceans were not excluded from the damage.
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    The race to 5G technology needs to take public health into account
    By Linnea Warren, Washington
    Letters to the Editor February 24, 2019
    Regarding the Feb. 20 2019 Economy & Business article “U.S. has strong start in race for 5G, report says”:

    "The telecom industry touts 5G’s future benefits, most of which are still speculative, while ignoring its significant costs. Not everyone in Congress agrees that rapid deployment of 5G is a national imperative. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) and Rep. Anna G. Eshoo (D-Calif.) first want proof that it’s safe.

    It’s unlikely they’ll get any, because the Federal Communications Commission has protected its pet industry for years. It prohibits objections to wireless devices on health grounds as long as they comply with radio-frequency radiation guidelines adopted in 1996 and never updated for newer technology.

    It rejected the first national study done since then, which found clear evidence linking 2G and 3G to cancer in rats, as irrelevant to humans. And it only considers effects caused by heating, ignoring the serious nonthermal effects.

    Up until now, most of the public’s exposure to radio-frequency radiation has come from handheld devices. Upon deployment of the dense networks of small cells planned for 5G, which will also have 4G antennas to fill in bandwidth gaps, public exposure will reach a whole new level of magnitude.

    Thousands of independent scientific studies have shown that the electromagnetic radio waves that transmit wireless signals seriously damage living tissues — in humans, animals, even plants.

    Ironically, other countries have responded by adopting far stricter RF exposure standards than the United States — including China."

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    Dr. Joel Moskowitz Wins Journalism Freedom of Information Award

    APRIL 29, 2018

    "On March 27, 2018, Berkeley professor Dr. Joel Moskowitz, was presented with the James Madison Freedom of Information Award by the Society for Professional Journalists for his work uncovering the California Department of Public Health(CDPH) Recommendations on How to Reduce Exposure to Radiofrequency Energy from Cell Phones.

    Dr. Moskowitz, who is the director of the Center for Family and Community Health at UC Berkeley’s School of Public Health, knew of the CDPH guidelines since 2013, however they had never been published. He found out that the CDPH had been working on safe cell phone guidelines since 2009. After many requests to the CDPH for release of these recommendations he filed a lawsuit in 2016 against the CDPH through the Freedom of Information Act. After the successful lawsuit, a Sacramento judge ordered that the CDPH release the documents and a 2 page draft copy, not to be released to the public was sent to Dr. Moskowitz in March 2017.

    In a March 2017 SF Gate article about the CDPH draft release, it was noted that Superior Court Judge Shelleyanne Chang stated the CDPH does have an obligation to inform the public about public health issues gathered by it’s own scientists.

    Dr. Moskowitz has been involved in educating others about the science indicating harm from wireless radiation for almost a decade. He, along with over 230 other international EMF peer reviewed scientists, have signed a petition, calling for the UN to issue new standards for non-ionizing electromagnetic that are protective of human and environmental health.

    Professor Moskowitz was also instrumental in passing Berkeley’s Cell Phone Right to Know ordinance, the first in the Nation to require cell phone sellers to post a brief warning in their stores about the hazards of cell phone radiation. This is similar to the warning cell phone manufacturers include in the fine print of their phone manuals and that few people ever read. Despite appeals and lawsuits by the telecommunications industry the Berkeley ordinance so far has prevailed, however, it may be challenged in the Supreme Court.

    The Berkeley cell phone ordinance required posting reads “To assure safety, the Federal Government requires that cell phones meet radio frequency (RF) exposure guidelines. If you carry or use your phone in a pants or shirt pocket or tucked into a bra when the phone is ON and connected to a wireless network, you may exceed the federal guidelines for exposure to RF radiation. This potential risk is greater for children. Refer to the instructions in your phone or user manual for information about how to use your phone safely.”

    Dr. Moskowitz has his own website with up to date information for the public, scientists and officials.

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    Updates on the Berkeley cell phone "right to know" ordinance:
    Saturday, September 22, 2018

    "Since July, 2014, more than 200 news stories have been published regarding the cell phone “right to know” ordinance that the Berkeley City Council unanimously adopted on May 12, 2015.

    An Associated Press (AP) story published on June 11, 2015 appeared on more than 100 web sites throughout the U.S. including the New York Times, the Washington Post, and ABC News. An AP story published on September 22, 2015 appeared on more than 155 new sites in the U.S. and Canada.

    News stories about the ordinance have appeared in thirteen other nations: Australia, Canada, China, India, Indonesia, Iran, Kenya, Lithuania, New Zealand, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, and Vietnam.

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    Electromagnetic Radiation Safety
    Recent Posts on EMR Safety, Friday, February 22, 2019

    The 5G mass-experiment: Big promises, unknown risks
    Investigate Europe
    Published on Jan 13, 2019
    An new investigation by Investigate Europe
    Europe is about to go through a giant technological transformation, one that will bring us “smart homes”, “smart cities” and the much-hyped “internet of things”. The vehicle for this transformation is 5G, the fifth-generation mobile service. 5G will allow countless appliances and everyday objects to be connected to the internet at all times. It will bring driverless cars, hologram images instead of video, smart fridges, nappies, washing machines, electricity circuits, coffee machines, your blood sugar, your medicine intake… But none of this comes without a cost. Such a level of connectivity will require many more base stations, which raises a growing concern that electromagnetic field radiation may be harmful to health. There is disagreement among scientists on whether 5G millimetre waves are less or more dangerous than 3 or 4G. Scientists wary of potential health risks from 5G point out that nobody knows as very little research has been done. Nobody has been asked whether we want to go down this path and we are heading into this future without consultation and with very little public debate.

    Cell Phone RADIATION & 5G DANGERS | An In-Depth Exploration
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I can't tolerate high SAR values. My hands go numb, my head and body hurts sometimes, so I usually keep a longer distance between cell towers.
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    With 5g you won't be but a few dozen feet between some "cells", likely closer very often.
    There are a lot more RF meters around than just a few years ago, it might be a good idea to get a competent one and measure current levels of RF at various bands / frequencies, find the strong emitters - before 5g roll out - and then continue to measure regularly for new sources - track them down and see if they are publicly announced or hidden from the public eye - only an RF meter / measuring device would be able to see their newly added RF pollution.

    Phones themselves are something else, IDK how the 5g will affect output from the cell phone, but according to what I've read it can vary greatly - some of the new 5g backs look pretty powerful, and that could end up output more RF than we are experiencing with 4g and before.

    The FCC page on SAR + pdf don't have anything useful in the way of measurements, but it has some useful comments - which might misdirect concerns away from a device when the concerns are valid in many uses:

    Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) For Cell Phones: What It Means For You

    "Many people mistakenly assume that using a cell phone with a lower reported SAR value necessarily decreases a user’s exposure to RF emissions, or is somehow “safer” than using a cell phone with a high SAR value. While SAR values are an important tool in judging the maximum possible exposure to RF energy from a particular model of cell phone, a single SAR value does not provide sufficient information about the amount of RF exposure under typical usage conditions to reliably compare individual cell phone models. Rather, the SAR values collected by the FCC are intended only to ensure that the cell phone does not exceed the FCC’s maximum permissible exposure levels even when operating in conditions which result in the device’s highest possible - but not its typical - RF energy absorption for a user."

    A cell phone induced to engage highest power output isn't "unusual", I'm sure my phone and most others hit that maximum during daily use many times. Moving from dense to less dense coverage requires higher power, and most of the time I am not "close" to a cell tower.

    Watch that CBN report on Cell Phone measurements, it's clear that most of us - not me - hold their phones too close to our body during use and for many carried too close to the body for far too many hours of exposure.
    Ask doctors who've treated patients with such cancer's:

    Florida Attorney Dies From 3 Different Cell Phone Induced Cancers

    Each Cancer exactly where his Cell Phone was held cose to his body.

    Since Jimmy’s warning about cell phones causing GBM (Glioblastoma) brain tumors, there is a rapidly growing list of political brain tumor deaths potentially linked to wireless radiation exposure that now includes the very honored Senator John McCain who has succumbed to his GBM (Glioblastoma) diagnosis.

    Here is his video testimony - short and long versions below:

    Beau Biden Dies From Same Cell Phone Brain Tumor as Jimmy Gonzalez
    (Short version)

    Published on Jun 7, 2015
    "The Brain Tumor That Killed the Vice President’s Son Has Been Linked to Cell Phone Radiation"

    Cell phone radiation is most likely the source for America’s surge in Brain cancer among politicians who have died at alarming rates since the explosion of wireless communications. Including Ted Kennedy, among 23 other politicians that have died from brain cancer since 1995

    The son of Vice President Joe Biden had a glioblastoma multiforme, or GBM. This all-too-common tumor has been linked to cell phone use. Jimmy Gonzalez, was also an Attorney like Beau Biden, and they both died of the same cell phone induced brain cancer.
    However, campaign contributions weren't a factor in Jimmy Gonzalez's life - it was the TRUTH that mattered to him!!

    He had the courage to stand up for what was right for the American people -- and everyone else around the world!

    Hear his full testimony that has forever changed the world's perception on the safety of wireless technology!

    Swedish doctors found that people who use cell phones for more than a year had a 70 percent greater risk of brain cancer than those who used the wireless devices for less than a year. The study, published in the International Journal of Oncology, found that people who used mobile phones for more than 25 years had a 300 percent greater risk of developing the dreaded disease than those who used mobile phones for one year or less. The study’s authors concluded that “glioma and also acoustic neuroma are caused by RF-EMF emissions from wireless phones.”

    FACT: The World Health Organization (WHO) has upgraded cell phone radiation to B2 category, meaning “possibly carcinogenic.”

    Longer Version with a more detailed statement...

    Jimmy Gonzalez "Cell Phones Cause Cancer"
    Environmental Health Trust
    Published on Dec 13, 2014
    Jimmy Gonzalez's testimony to the Pembroke Pines Commission resulted in the passing of a Resolution to raise awareness on the health risks of cell phone radiation. Learn more about the state of science on cell phone radiation at Several cities and countries are taking action to raise awareness about how people can protect themselves. Please see the full list at Jimmy Gonzalez' words will save lives.

    A tragic end to his battle with cellphone induced cancers...

    Attorney Jimmy Gonzalez Dies From 3 Different Cell Phone Radiation Induced Cancers
    Published on Feb 14, 2015
    Sadly, I just heard the news, Florida Attorney Jimmy Gonzalez succumbed to several DIFFERENT cancers ALL caused by cell phone radiation exposure!

    Jimmy vs Cell Phone Induced Cancer – A battle Jimmy fought to the end, and it is a battle RF Safe will continue in his dedication along with all the other lives which have been destroyed by a tradition of wireless profits before people.

    Our prayers go out to Jimmy Gonzalez’s wife, children and family! I’ve felt their pain and frustration over the issue of RF Radiation exposure. I attribute the death of my daughter Angel Leigh Coates to RF Radiation exposure as well. Just as Jimmy did, RF Safe will continue this battle through to our last breaths too! God Bless You Jimmy!

    “CELL PHONES DO CAUSE CANCER” – Jimmy Gonzalez (Obituary) February 20, 1972 – November 27, 2014

    A Tragedy of EMFs

    Angel Leigh Coates
    1995 - 1995
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    Intel kills 5G deal with China’s Unigroup over U.S. security concerns

    "Intel has halted a long-term plan to share 5G modem technology with a Chinese government-backed chipmaker, due in part to concerns over recent U.S. tensions with China, Nikkei reports. The deal was previously expected to expand Intel’s opportunities in China’s growing market, while aiding the Chinese government’s plans to develop its own chip industry.

    Following a 2014 investment, under which Intel took a 20 percent stake in state-owned Tsinghua Unigroup, the companies last February announced a 5G tie-up as a “powerful combination targeting 5G smartphones.” Their “long-term strategic collaboration” was meant to create a 5G Android smartphone platform for sale in China in the second half of 2019, combining Intel’s 5G modem with a Unigroup chipset.

    Now the Unigroup deal is off, a recent decision that Intel confirmed and characterized as mutual, while saying that it was not based on political pressure from the U.S. government. Even so, Nikkei reports that Intel wanted not to “somehow upset U.S. authorities given the current tensions” with China, and backed off the deal after the unexpected departure of its key advocate, former CEO Brian Krzanich.

    The Trump Administration has spent the past year fighting a trade war with China’s government, while simultaneously accusing Chinese cellular companiesHuawei and ZTE of facilitating espionage and committing sanctions violations. Though Huawei has repeatedly denied any espionage-related activities, it has faced mounting accusations from the government and private companies, while ZTE made a deal with the administration to resolve sanctions-related claims. Concerns still persist, however, and the U.S. government is threatening to ban the Chinese companies’ equipment from being used in cellular networks.

    Intel’s 5G modem plans have also changed considerably over the last year. The company decided to skip its first-generation modem in favor of a more power-efficient sequel, delaying the arrival of consumer 5G products from 2019 to 2020. At this year’s CES and Mobile World Congress shows, the chipmaker focused largely on announcing new 5G server and base station components, letting rivals such as Qualcomm, Samsung, and Huawei premiere early consumer 5G devices.

    Following the breakup of its Intel deal, Unigroup now says that it’s working on its own 5G modem without Intel’s assistance. Similarly, Huawei has already developed its own 5G modem and smartphones for sale to consumers in China, while other Chinese smartphone makers are expected to rely substantially on 5G modems from Qualcomm and MediaTek."
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    Huawei CEO Is a Lying Liar | China Uncensored
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    This week's China News Headlines! #Huawei's CEO Ren Zhengfei says Huawei would never share information with the Chinese government or create a backdoor for the CCP. He's a lying liar! But Huawei is also suing the US government. So much for US China relations. A new microwave weapon that causes extreme pain—was it used on US consulate workers in Havana, Cuba and China? China plans to send a probe to Mars. Social Credit system denies millions travel. And the UN wants to go to Xinjiang!
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    All technology owners are doing the same with their governments without any exceptions.
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    Why did the Huawei CEO bald-faced lie about it then?

    If we can't trust them to speak the truth about what is clearly true - that Huawei and other Chinese communications companies are required to turn over any and all data to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), as you correctly pointed out, then why do business with them?

    What is clear is that there are many good reasons for barring Huawei and other Chinese companies - who are all under the direct control of the CCP - from gaining "intimate" access to the data pipelines tasked with interconnecting communications in any country.
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