Alienware with Coffee Lake

Discussion in 'Alienware' started by robert77, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Virtuoso

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    I now have my third Alienware laptop and the interior finish has never worn down in any of those. are you cleaning them with alcohol or something? (because that eats the coating).

    Displays depend on what the screen manufacturers deliver them, thos eare the same in all laptops.

    The current line is imo much better than the prvious Echo line, and i already liked the Echo line.
     
  2. nedooo

    nedooo Notebook Consultant

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    Dell can accept or not displays that are not up to high end laptop range...
    And he was pointing to LCD bezels making uneven pressure that results in "backlight bleeding".
    And should we criticize some Chinese factory for making poor designed heatsinks?
    Sorry, but Dell is to blame for selling flawed products not their supliers...
     
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    rinneh Notebook Virtuoso

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    Again the heatsink issues are mostly fixed, if you can give me 10 recent examples of uneven core temps you can make an actual point. until that time more comments on reddit and this forum suggest that the uneven heatsink pressure is mostly fixed (or very strongly reduced).

    Regarding the panels, the lowest quality panel (the one that I own by the way). Is an AUO 1080fhd panel for the 15inch version. Which has a peak brightness of 290~305 nits according to my colorimeter that I use for calibration. Contrast ratio seems to be near 800 (around 780 in my calibration test). Which suggests it is the B156HAN version 3. Which is an average panel, not bad, not the greatest either. The LG equivalent is better (I actually have one from my past Alienware without a matte coating, so a fully glossy version). The latter one had a contrast ratio of just over 1000. Still not the best panel. The best is a Samsung panel with 8 bit colors in this resolution space but has horrible ghosting issues and image retention issues.

    Is that a really bad panel? Nah I dont think so. The LG 220nits panels are far worse. Could they used better? Well it is hard to source fhd panels nowadays and companies are currently mostly selling old stock. My guess is that AUO is one of the few left producing these. But thats just what I think. Not sure if there is anyone here that has more in depth knowledge about the current panel market. It is simply what a distributor told me when I wanted to buy a few panels for me and my friends to replace their 220 nits panels with during the AW15R2 days. The 4K panel is top of the line though, one of th ebest IGZO 4K variations in both the 15inch and 17inch laptop version. The 13inch has the wonderful Oled panel ofcourse and only one of the 2 laptops out there on the market that have an Oled panel (the other one is the Lenovo X).

    Backlight bleed sucks, i have a little bit of it. I hope it will even out a bit after using the laptop longer. Not sure how the bezel makes it worse, IPS panels are already notorious for backlight bleed and all laptops have glued on bezels these days and almost all have those issues. I wish they would use those nice glass top layers again like in the old days or macbooks. Preferably glued on.
     
  4. nedooo

    nedooo Notebook Consultant

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    What Dell adverise for base LCD is 300 nit panels...
    Acording to this review it it can be considered as false advertisement:

    https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/alienware-17

    It seems like Dell staff thinks their customers are sheeps...well guys step out of the flock, make them reconsider next time...
     

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    rinneh Notebook Virtuoso

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    selective reading again, average brightness, display manufacturers note the peak brightness. which is often a bit more bright in the middle. average tend to be lower for EVERY laptop out there.

    Also laptop mag :D really?
     
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    nedooo Notebook Consultant

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    Really!
    And Dell advertise LCD not manufacturer...
     
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    rinneh Notebook Virtuoso

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    So they all advertise with peak brightness not average. Average can vary, manufacturings tolerances. So why you don go to every brand section on this forum and complain? send them an email. im sure they will listen to you!
     
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    Well I did sent mail to Gigabyte and they adjusted their web page within a week...
     
  9. fire3element

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    No. I have been cleaning it with the utmost of care. Slightly warm water on a microfiber cloth.
    I am afraid to even use the laptop as a laptop, due to the permanent staining on the palmrest. Most of my 17r4's life has been on my desk hooked up to an external monitor and input devices.
    Even the very little use my palmrest has seen at this point has left deep stains in the soft touch material.

    And BTW... this is the 4th 17r4 I've had. Last one was a store display, and even with that level of abuse it had less damage to the palm ares than my current unit.

    Dell claims that it is a cosmetic issue, and does not affect performance.
    I'd argue that claim as I have avoided using the laptop as a laptop, for fear that I am ruining the palmrest finish.
    It is a blame shifting tactic, and I do not appreciate it one bit.
    A laptop that costs over $2k should NOT be susceptible to wear on a critical surface, especially with minimal use. I am highly displeased with the lack of responsibility Dell is exerting.

    There are other laptop manufacturers that have better displays than the current AW lineup. Such as MSI, Gigabyte, etc.
    That is not a good excuse for Dell, when other competing laptops have better offerings. My first unit had the LG panel (mid-late 6th gen 17r4), and that display was better than all 5 of the 1080p displays I've had so far. If only I had known then that Dell had stopped using the LG.
     
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    hodgeMN Notebook Evangelist

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    Additional 2 cores would be nice. The 8950HK looks like a beast...although they probably will not offer a k series on the 13".
     
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