Alienware m17x R4 GTX1070 mxm successful upgrade

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What would you rather have?

  1. Alienware 17 R3 6700HQ GTX1070

  2. Alienware M17x R4 3820QM GTX 1070

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  1. Handale30

    Handale30 Notebook Guru

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    So guys, a sad update from my side of this wish of keeping my m17x R4 and not buying the new laptops.

    I was playing battlefield with normal temps (mid 80’s) ,no A/C on in the room, for about 3 hours, suddently my laptop shut off completely and I heard a ticking sound coming from around the middle of the laptop, so I lifted up the laptop and touched the battery and I immediately heard a crackling burning sound and white smoke started coming from under the laptop :(. I disconnected the power cord, removed the battery and took the bottom cover off.

    I then tried to put the batt on to try and turn it on and as soon as I placed the batt in there was a flash and sound coming from the gpu right next to the CPU, so I removed the batt and removed the GPU and found this...



    Something fried on the GPU and left a black mark on the motherboard which luckily was easily removed. I then tried to boot my laptop without the GPU and I had the lights come on again and an 8 beep code, so apparently the m17x r4 was unharmed hopefully but the GPU os toast.

    Now just to clarify, I had the GTX1070mxm Zotac version with the 150w MSI vbios, metal cooled, 17kwh thermal pads, 330w psu. I recommend if you have this card be careful and its best to keep the 240w pau I guess to restrict the power a bit on the GPU. Ill edit the post in a sec to include the pics and more info.

    I would be very grateful to read your comments and advice on which gtx1070 card should I get in the normal mxm form factor or if I should go for the 1060. Im never going back to Zotac cards because I hated having to have to run the GPU manually.

    I thank you in advance :( sad sad day... dont know if I should just buy a new laptop as mxm cards are so expensive in comparison to used 1060 laptops.
     
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  2. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    Mid 80s is 40c above my card you ran that card way hot and for prolonged periods of time it seems.

    Also the msi vbios is 115w, not sure why listings have it for 150w.
     
  3. Handale30

    Handale30 Notebook Guru

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    Hum? I dont undestand... when you game your GPU temps stay around 45 degrees celcius? That’s imposible isnt it? I had everything of the best quality for cooling and only during hard gaming would it rise to 80’s.

    Do you know if the card can be fixed or should I just buy a new one. What a waste.
    And my card would pull 141w sometimes, should the vbios prevent it from doing that?
     
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    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    My normal gaming temps at present are 46c-52c on the high end.
     
  5. M18x-oldie

    M18x-oldie Notebook Evangelist

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    Did you flash that vBIOS yourself? That's way too much for the Zotac, as they tend to be of lesser quality than the MSI, from what I've read.

    Btw, from what I've read a 1070 mostly is around 70 C during hard load, around 50 C under load is the optimum, but most people won't reach these temps under load in the AW17, except @TheReciever and @Striker1234, I think.

    My 1060 is around 65 C when gaming.
     
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    It's worth noting that I'm using an aftermarket heatsink with the fan maxed at all times, as well as cooler master u3 with 2150rpm gentle typhoons.

    I also have the card tuned for 1700 core and +500 on the memory. The vrms overheat with my current heatsink, which will be fixed as soon as I stop being lazy and replace it (already have it). If I tune for higher core speeds (which then is higher tdp) is when I over heat. My heatsink has been chopped up quite a bit over the past couple of years. My next installation will be fixing all this and hopefully allow some higher overclocks.

    Just waiting for everything to be ready before I overhaul the ranger again.
     
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  7. Mastermind5200

    Mastermind5200 Notebook Virtuoso

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    80c is fine for a 1070, TJmax is 95C for Pascal last I checked. What likely happened is the VRM's blew. If its just the VRM's, shouldn't be too hard of a fix, if something else is damaged or the PCB is done then you're going to have alot on your hands and at that point IMO sell the M17X R4 and go for a newer laptop.
     
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    I do not recommend anyone using a vBIOS higher than 115w max on any of the "standard mxm3.0b" style cards. If anything they should be 100w for safety. Undervolting should also help maintain clocks.
     
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  9. Handale30

    Handale30 Notebook Guru

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    Ill explain in depth what happened tomorrow, im already on it, and I realy dont want this to happen to anyone else so ill try to see what went on, on the meantime...

    Do you guys recommend another GTX 1070mxm with the standard formfactor that is not the zotac and has the fan control enabled that doesn't blow up or should I just go GTX 1060 mxm?

    There arr some 1070 on ebay but cant seem to find where they are from, Asrock or gecube, china, who knows...
    And keep it safe and upgrade laptop once this doesn't cut it. Never selling the m17x r4 but ill get another one when i need to.

    The vbios I installed was the same one @Striker1234 used, but my card drawed 140w sometimes.
    Thanks guys, ill report back with pics n stuff
     
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    Oh no, you let out the magic smoke.

    I'm (cancel WAS) running the same card. It does totally suck balls that you have to manually set 100% GPU when gaming. HWinfo inevitably freezes at less than 100% PWM so you crash the game or risk the card.

    I just blast mine with the full copper heatink and whatever fan upgrade I did (forget) and yea 50*C is all I encounter.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/m17x-r4-with-gtx1070.814826/page-3#post-10826670

    So there is a failsafe idea where you setup a normally closed thermaresistor on the PWM line. Then whenever the HWInfo itself the PWM is disconnected and the GPU fan goes full tilt.

    That way the laptop doesn't cook itself. I look forward to your informing, albeit sad, update regarding what happened.

    EDIT: If I were you I would splice in an Arnold scream and snap the M17x R4 in half on a YouTube video.
     
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