Alienware m17x R3 gpu upgrade

Discussion in 'Alienware 17 and M17x' started by Kamil Ilyas, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. ll_r1d0_ll

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    update: tried reflowing...still short :( looks like there is some IC which got damaged and is showing the whole card short
     
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    Okies MickyD1234, will look for the heat sink, in the meantime can you direct me where i can get that sweet semi-hard phase-changing paste ? lol

    And yeah ! I remember now, i did that basic driver mod a while back to run the same game (Batman AC :p), so i know about that, i though it was something way more complex.

    I looked into some buys for the 680m and the 780m, 880m and the 870m, i know the 880m is out but what about the 870m, is it a good enough card ? also do check out the buys for the 780m, here you go:

    For the 680m:
    https://www.amazon.com/Nvidia-GeFor...=UTF8&qid=1488040514&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+680m
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-GeFo...684370?hash=item464cd42d52:g:EJcAAOSwZjJU8PbR
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Alienw...131813?hash=item51f3e39ee5:g:~PYAAOSwOgdYpij2

    For the 780m, 880m and 870m:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GT70-17...445490?hash=item237cab21f2:g:eAMAAOSwImRYjl-~
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-NVIDIA-...546494?hash=item282c65947e:g:JrgAAOSwdGFYrPs-
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Alienware-M...889750?hash=item3adb274f96:g:2MgAAOSwtfhYr6zD
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GTX-...800505?hash=item465d95ab39:g:9aEAAOSw2xRYmWlF

    Lemme know what you think about them and which is a better buy, thanks.
     
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    The 880m looks the best price/performance but it would be a trip into the unknown for me - never come across an 880m upgrade. The 870m is probably a low power version (75w?). Your heatsink would be fine but what I don't know much about is the later UEFI boot built into the cards. They are supposed to be able to use compatibility mode but that feature was not around until the R4.

    What I'm getting at is your machine boots from the NV card because of the 120hz display. A bios incompatibility might result in a brick.

    The 2 x 4gb 680m's are from the same buyer so sound like a reasonable supplier. I always ask suppliers about DOA policy. Many refuse returns (cos you might have popped it!).

    Plus point on the 4gb is that the clevo vbios does not have a +135 overclock limit. I have also found a clevo vbios in my library that over-volts it. With this it will easily outperform the 780m.

    Seems the prices reflect the popularity of the 680m :(. IMO the best card NV have released in years!

    That phase changing paste was something I never found. On a dell heatsink it is already applied and you just remove a protective film from it.

    You might find some helpful stuff in my 680m 'pack'. https://www.dropbox.com/s/izpy8zuabnmsvvs/680mflash.zip?dl=0

    I'll PM you the password :)

    Good luck
     
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    ok so guys as i have failed in repairing/reflowing gtx580m ...and now i am stuck with the option of ati 6900m series card i seriously want to know how it will work in my m17xr3? please ? anyone :( i have tried 3 cards but no luck !
     
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    With a 120hz display you are restricted to NV - but I think you said that it works without the GPU card? If so it's a 60hz model and will work with ATI. No help though as I've not worked on an ATi upgrade. I do know they have larger captive screws in the heatsink/x bracket. I did work with a guy going the other way, ATi to NV. He removed the captive screw and replaced them with smaller ones.

    So, from a physical point you will want the ATi x-bracket and screws. The heatink itself I am unsure of. The components appeared to be in the same or close locations for figuring out the pads.

    I would expect the software would be fine in the R3 but can't say for sure...
     
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    well i am having 60hz panel and i have tried changing the x bracket and even the screws but still no luck ..it gets detected in bios and device manager but does not allow to install drivers..i have tried with disabling signature checkign but it didnt worked :(
     
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    So if you see it in device manager does it just show an error loading? I am thinking you are up against some sort of windows issue. The other option is it is conflicting with the intel for whatever it is ATi call Optimus GPU switching.

    Have you tried to remove the driver AND check the box to delete the software. This will stop windows loading the same driver every time. Then you may be able to manually install the driver.

    No luck? Then try DDU to strip out all driver info before a manual install.

    Another option is to force the d-gpu instead of the intel in case it is switching that is causing it? If you have the unlocked bios you should be able to set the boot to PEG and primary card to ... sorry memory failure, it is a 3 digit acronym like IGD and needs toggling from the default option.

    CAREFUL with the bios options, you might cause a beep code and go no further. You have to discharge the cmos battery to default the bios. It will error with a time/date then continue to run.

    Good luck.
     
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    I only recommend 680M in M17x R3. 780M/880M have audio IRQ issues that may be troublesome/tedious to solve, not plug in play solvable. involves disabling onboard audio, installing nvidia drivers, doing a registry hack, then re-enabling audio. not too sure on specifics.
     
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    Thanks man, I briefly mentioned this earlier and also only recommend the 680m as the best for the R3, unless you only use USB headphones!
     
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    hi and sorry for the late reply...actually i tried disabling the intel gpu and then i ended up with 8 beeps and then i had to plug my friend's gtx 780 in it and got the display to atleast boot to bios..and before disabling the intel gpu i sometimes got stuck at the POST 20-30 percent loading forever...and i had to remove the card again to boot from intel gpu to make it work back...i will try removing the drivers from the laptop of old nvidia gpu and will update within few days :) thanks again
     
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