Alienware M17 R1, upgrade and a few questions

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  1. jmmoric

    jmmoric Newbie

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    Pretty cool forum, been going through it a while to find solutions to keeping my 2013 M17 R1 alive.

    So far I've myself upgraded the GPU from the GTX 770M to a 980M, that worked fine, and after a while I figured the entire changing .ini file and stopping windows from requiring signed drivers.... that took the longest by the way, wish I had known this forum beforehand.

    So, now I have this idea, wanting to pull a little more from my "Ranger", I want to upgrade to a GTX 1070 GPU, and from other threads I've found it available on eBay as well.... That must be as high as I can go on this machine, right?

    Furthermore, I also figured out that I can probably upgrade the CPU a bit, I got an i7-4800MQ, but here I'm a bit more lost..... how high can I go? Without having to rebuild everything inside that is.... I think I've figured out I need a 330W adapter to run it, which is also readily available on eBay.

    I do have a question on the panel on the laptop, it does give a resolution of 1920*1080, but for some odd reason not 120 Hz, could it be a 60 Hz panel I have? And as far as I can see, Windows sees it as a Generic PnP Panel, does it need a driver of it's own, or are there anything better than what windows give.. and no, it's not the 3D panel, I didn't invest in that at the time.
     
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    jmmoric Newbie

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    Guess I can plug in a i7-4940MX?
     
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    1070 will work under SG mode but peg is desirable.

    4930mx is generally preferred compared to the refresh
     
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    SG mode?

    Thanks for the advice, will look into the options.
     
  5. Maxware79

    Maxware79 Notebook Deity

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    SG mode is Switchable Graphics, or what Nvidia call Optimus. It allows the laptop to auto switch from the Intel graphics to the dedicated graphics depending on what's required.

    PEG is just using the Dedicated card. There will be no Optimus available. You will find that the GPU will work best under PEG.

    To swap these options manually you need an unlocked BIOS but as the 120hz display only works on PEG there is no need for the unlocked BIOS.
     
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    PEG = dGPU where the GPU is wired to the panel

    SG = Intel HD drives the panel but the GPU still works for 3d applications and such. You lose about 10% performance compared to PEG.

    PEG is better overall solution but also requires the 120hz panel due to its connection (eDP)
     
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    Thanks, I really didn't know that....

    So technically, getting a 120 Hz panel, I can simply plop in the 1070 and it should function without any further problems?

    So far I've come up with the following to purchase then:

    Panel, part no. GN36T (the D-2)
    New panel cable, part no. N392W
    1070M, part no. N17E-G2-A1
    Intel Core i7-4930MX 3.0GHz/3.9GHz 8M SR15M Mobile CPU Processor

    And a 330W power adapter.

    That'll bring the basket up to about $900? Including shipping. If I try something like the 5000P I may as well buy a brand new laptop.

    Guess I'm gonna check out other options first, if I throw $3000 I'll get a new top notch, or over the top, laptop... so question is value of an upgrade like that.
     
  8. Maxware79

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    Yeah you have to compare the benefits of upgrading compared to buying a new machine.
    For people like me, I just don't want to buy a new laptop based on the fact that most of them have soldered components that can't be swapped out or upgraded. I also don't play games anymore so it's not important for me to have the latest and greatest CPU/GPU.
    I believe I mentioned on another forum that you'll also have to get a new webcam that is compatible with the 120Hz panel cable. @MrMogwai should be able to confirm that they use different webcams between panels, for some reason.
     
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    Yes you did, and I appreciate it.

    I kind of got things put up in 2 forums, being a little confused as I usually am when I look for questions.

    I'm also looking into the webcam, looking for a part number. Or something combined with a panel? I'll dig it up.
     
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    What price did you get for the panel and cable? I may have a spare 120Hz assembly from a dead 17. Shipping would be the only issue as I'm in Australia.
     
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