Alienware m15 R2

Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Terreos, May 28, 2019.

  1. etern4l

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    I just think it's all gone in the wrong direction. The light gaming laptops, pretty much all of them, run hot because the chassis is too small to host a sufficient cooling solution. Tinkering around the edges is not going to change much.

    Give me AW15 R5 any day. Yes, with that awesome 99Whr battery and throw in 2 extra SODIMM slots (supporting XMP of course) or start supporting 64GB of RAM. Leave ripping technically illiterate people off to Apple, or use the XPS line for that.
     
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  2. Terreos

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    I'd be all for that honestly. Good battery life, great keyboard, and built like a tank.
     
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    I don't mind the aesthetic of most of the thin-and-light laptops; with less height to work with, many of the designs are more flat and regular-looking. There are less angles for the sake of angles and the garish (IMO) gamer look. The mobility factor is also not negligible for me. However, the trend for the thinnest laptop possible that can barely handle the internals is definitely unnecessary. It's impressive engineering, but at the expense of the end-users.

    How much better would these machines be if they were 1" to 1.2", compared to 0.8"?

    In all honesty, I'll probably get the m17 R2 once it gets some kind of color-upgraded screen, and I'll probably be happy with it overall. Yet I'll wistfully note the missed opportunity for Dell to have made a better machine...
     
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    I knew a comment like this was coming

    My initial reaction to soldered ram is also a look of disgust but ASUS did this back in the day with DDR2 and it resulted in lower latency/timings and better overclocking. I doubt this will be the case though as it's Alienware. oh well
     
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    Sounds like an urban legend. How much extra circuitry does a SODiMM slot add? 5mm tops? How much time does the electrical signal need to cover 5mm? About 15ps right? How would that even move the needle if the memory clock period is 300-400ps? Also how does one determine the effect empirically on a given motherboard if RAM is soldered, so can't be replaced by a SODiMM variant for comparison.
     
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    no idea

    https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5K3_PremiumWiFiAP/

    I lied it was DDR3

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    OK, so the implemented their own DDR3 so to speak using T-Tree design and overclockable, at a time when typical DDR3 DIMMs must have performed less impressively and were hard to overclock?

    Why would Dell try to do that when fast DDR4 modules are readily available on the market? Wouldn't Azor mention such an astounding innovation, in a situation where was forced to talk about 6 phase VRMs?
     
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    There's not enough space for them to do it anyway, and it was never proven that allowing DRAM to have universal access gained anything.

    DDR3 was brand new at that time. DDR4 @ high speed requires more system VCCIO and VCSA voltage which is why notebooks are not supporting beyond 2666Mhz except for maybe a Prema modded Clevo or MSI.

    If anything Frank should opt for Low profile DDR4 and call it a day.
     
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    I honestly feel there is more of a push for less flashy laptops because many of them are making a push for these to be tempting for professionals. Now Alienware will probably always try to keep it's flashier look. Which is why I'd prefer over the new Aero 15 and 17. And the new look just sells it for me. I'd gladly walk into a meeting with one of these. ;)

    I do have to agree if they made laptops just a bit thicker and gave us bigger batteries and thicker heat pipes I'd be all for it. But everyone is chasing to do what Apple does. And that erks me. And you too I'll bet.

    There are 4k slim bezel screens coming to other manufacturers. So I'd be surprised if the M17 doesn't get it soon. I think many using a 17" laptop want something more than 1080p.
     
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    Aero 15 was my second choice. Next day Amazon delivery. It was actually as expensive as the m15 with 3 year warranty on sale, however, Gigabyte only offered 1y warranty and their service is way worse (they also have that idiotic warranty sticker) plus no AGA support. So, I got myself another Alienware, which was with me in just 2 weeks with DOA GPU (promptly fixed to be fair).

    Still, it was fairly close call vs m15 R1, vs this R2 I'd probably get the Aero, or maybe even Razer, on battery grounds alone.
     
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