Alienware Area 51-M vs Alienware M15

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Alienware Area51-M vs Alienware M15

  1. Alienware Area 51-M

    36 vote(s)
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  2. Alienware M15

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%
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  1. Papusan

    Papusan JOKEBOOKs Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on FILTHY

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  2. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    But the M15 IS a slim laptop and the 2080 Max-Q should run similar to my GTX 1080 but with the ray tracing effects.

    You see if I am going for the M15, it will be my portable on the go machine which should provide enough power for what I need to do. I don't need to be winning any benchmarking contests with it.
     
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  3. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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  4. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I would never recommend the M15. The Area 51m is the only decent option they offer.
     
  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Thanks, was waiting for you to clear my mind and all my attempts for ordering the M15 were failing, the Dell site either keeps changing, sometimes if I select the 8950HK the Windows 10 Pro option disappears, sometimes the Nebula Red color disappears, maybe that's a sign from God to not order it.

    Anyway, I placed the order with HIDevolution, here are the specs:

    Custom Built Alienware Area-51M - 17.3" FHD 144Hz G-SYNC Tobii - i9-9900K - RTX 2080 - White
    Chassis Color

    White - Lunar Light
    Free Game Bundles
    GET BOTH Anthem + Battlefield V for laptops with RTX 2080, GET YOUR CHOICE of Anthem OR Battlefield V for laptops with RTX 2060 or 2070
    Processor
    Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded Intel 9th Gen Core i9-9900K 8 Core, 16 Thread, 16MB Cache, Processor, 3.6 - 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.1GHz) - installed by HIDevolution - $655.00
    Video Card
    NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 w/ 8GB GDDR6
    Thermal Interface Materials
    Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut between Intel CPU Die and IHS + GPU, Gelid GC Extreme between IHS + Heat Sink, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces - installed by HIDevolution (ONLY SELECT THIS OPTION IF DELIDDED CPU IS CHOSEN)
    Alienware Graphics Amplifier
    Alienware Graphics Amplifier - $200.00
    LCD Panel
    17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz Anti-Glare IPS Display w/ NVIDIA G-SYNC + Tobii eyetracking technology
    Minimize LCD Backlight Bleed
    Yes, quality check and give me a panel with minimal backlight bleed. - $100.00
    Display Warranty
    2 Year Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel guarantee) - $135.00
    System Memory (RAM)
    HIDevolution Approved Standard 128GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (4 x 32GB) - Operates at 2400MHz - installed by HIDevolution - $1,420.00
    RAID Options
    RAID 0 (striping) - Must select 2x identical drives in M.2 SSD Slots 1 and 2
    M.2 PCIe / SATA Slot 1
    Samsung 960 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,500 MB/s Write - Installed by HIDevolution - $720.00
    M.2 PCIe / SATA Slot 2
    Samsung 960 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,500 MB/s Write - Installed by HIDevolution - $720.00
    2.5" Drive Bay
    2TB Seagate FireCuda Gaming 7mm SSHD (ST2000LX001) - installed by HIDevolution - $90.00
    Keyboard
    Alienware TactX keyboard with per-key RGB LED AlienFX lighting, anti-ghosting, N-Key US Eng
    Wireless Cards
    Intel® Wireless-AC 9260 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 5.0 - $30.00
    Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro, 64bit, English, with Multi Language Support - $60.00
    Operating System Clean Install
    None
    Recovery Media (returns system back to factory state)
    Recovery USB Flash Drive - $25.00
    Office Software
    None
    Power Adapter
    180W + 330W (510W Total) AC Power Adapters (support 100-240V)
    Extra Power Adapter
    330 Watt 3 Prong AC Adapter with 6 ft Power Cord (will work worldwide, includes FREE plug adapter for those without "U.S. style" outlets) - $175.00
    Internal Battery
    Lithium Ion (90 Wh) Battery
    Alternate Language Keyboard Laser Engraving - $179.00
    Arabic 101
    Alternate Language Keyboard Photo Upload
    KA-U.A.E.-20871.jpg 800 x 305 px.
    Warranty and Service
    4 Years Premium Support + 4 Year HIDevolution US Warranty + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support - $549.00
    Accidental Damage Protection
    4 Year Accidental Damage Service - $229.00
    HIDevolution International Pre-paid Shipping (HIPS) Service
    None
    Carrying Case
    Alienware Area-51m Elite - Laptop carrying backpack - 17.3-inch - black, dark gray - $120.00
     
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  6. GrandesBollas

    GrandesBollas Notebook Consultant

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    There is so much truth to this statement. Laptops have become money-pits. They are expensive and have constrained performance. They do, however, satisfy a niche. But, we have to be realistic regarding that niche. Both the m15 and 51m are going to be expensive. Possibly comparable in cost by the time you determine configuration. Both options are bad buys. The challenge is to find the option that makes the most sense for the buyer: that may end up being neither system.

    The OP has identified many key elements:
    • True portable machine
    • Great battery life
    • RTX GPU
    • Good keyboard
    • 144hz screen
    The reality is that there are not many choices. For work and travel, my first preference was a Macbook Pro. I still have my 2014 MBP, and does everything it ever was advertised. I can't game on it. MSI thin and lights are expensive and hard to repair. The Dell G-series are cheaply constructed. Alienware continues to perpetuate the persona of consumers-as-blind-mice. The new m15 series as gimped as it is by less than ideal Alienware design decisions is only the option I would even consider for this category. Cost and how you need to use it most should be your considerations. Otherwise, consider buying a Digital Storm Aventum X and tow it on a cart!
     
  7. alaskajoel

    alaskajoel Notebook Deity

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    For your gee whiz:

    I've been using a 51m for the last couple days. I can get about 128w of sustained CPU usage out if it before thermal throttling. In my case, this equates to an undervolted 9900k (-130mv) at 4.6ghz on all cores in cinebench. Scores about 1950. I can get about 4-5 runs in at 4.7ghz before it throttles down. Those runs bring the score to 2015 which is about what my desktop 9900k will do completely stock.

    The only other modification is a IC graphite pad on the CPU. I'll probably try kryonaut on the cpu this week to see if it improves. Already using it on the GPU.

    The big reason I love this machine is the external 4x PCIe in the graphics amplifier. These lanes come right off the CPU (dGPU is configured to only use 8x lanes).

    Only other thermal point of reference I have so far is a couple back to back Firestrike stress tests. With the stock fan curve and the above settings on the CPU, here is what I get with a 2070:


    Graphite Pad on CPU, Kryonaut on 2070:

    Firestrike Stress test, 40 iterations total
    56 degrees max CPU temp
    68 max GPU temp
    AVG FPS: 92.83 - 90.15
    Individual Run AVG: 76-113

    Cinebench
    94 degrees max in 15 consecutive runs
    CPU power consumption varies between 120-128w.
    -130mv, 4.6ghz x 8, scores 1950
     
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  8. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Don't waste your time with Kryonaut, its great the first few days then within 5 days or so, you will see your temps rise dramatically to a point where it's not usable anymore. Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut is what you want.

    Does the Area 51-M have Intel integrated graphics or just discrete GPU and how do you switch between them if it has the integrated graphics?
     
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  9. alaskajoel

    alaskajoel Notebook Deity

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    The integrated graphics are enabled, but are not switchable in any way. The eDP is wired right to the dGPU. The Intel iGPU is used whenever you connect an external display via thunderbolt. The 15r4 right next to it on my desk behaves in the same way.

    FWIW, I'm not a huge fan of using this configuration. There is some considerable UI stuttering when moving windows between displays and even a bit of mouse stuttering. The application "Desktop windows manager" spikes dramatically in utilization in task manager whenever this stutter happens.
     
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    Strange how they got GSYNC to work with the Intel HD Graphics present because from what I know that GSYNC will not work if an Intel HD Graphics is present which is why manufacturers like MSI make it a switchable option so you either use one graphics card or the other.

    Did you try updating your Intel Graphics Driver to fix that stuttering issue? Intel Graphics Driver 25.20.100.6577
     
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