Alienware 17 R1 vs 980m. Going to need help on this one.

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  1. Confused Troll

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    Greetings everyone.

    I took a bold leap and got a dell 980m installed in my 17 R1 (P18E regulatory model), thinking that it could upgrade the original, shorted out, 780m that did its duty since March 2014.

    The card was installed and I got to reinstalling Windows 10 64-bit home on an SSD with UEFI enabled and legacy + safe boot disabled. Fast boot disabled as well, from BIOS and soon after, Windows.
    Currently installed is the latest nvidia driver that I inf modded to install (but obviously not work, error 43).
    BIOS was also updated to Dell's A17 to no avail.

    At this point I have read up some on bios/vbios modding and I think one of those might see me through. All I really want is to get the 980 to work, nothing risky like overclocking.

    If you need more info, please ask the questions and thank you for reading!
     
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    there's a chance that at the end of the .inf file (where there's the list of all the gpus) there's more than one card corresponding to your code, in my case for example there was a GTX 1070 (the card I was trying to install) and a GTX 1060, fixing only the line of the GTX 1070 wouldn't work, only after changing both lines was I able to install the driver. It may be the same for you, I remember this being the first and only problem I had with the inf file modding.
     
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    Hello and thank you for chiming in!

    Unfortunately, this does not seem to be the case. My modified code only appears in two locations in the whole file and it's in the two locations that it should.
     
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    I used to change something like 7 lines in my file for the 1070, I don't know if it's normal for it to be two in your case but remember to check every "sector", codes are repeated multiple times
     
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    The 980M can work on Windows 7, 8 and 10 so there are 3 areas in the .inf to put your line of code. You only have to put it in the one that corresponds to the OS you are using but I always put it in each one. It is really easy to scroll past a section though. There is only one section in the 10 series cards because the drivers are only for Windows 10.
    Then you still have to put a String in for your card. This is found right at the bottom of the .inf.
    For my 1070 I just put in one line of Hardware code and then one String code.
     
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    There is a chance that the cards vBIOS is wrong. If it's a Dell card then it should be good but you never know. My 1070 got the code 43 when I installed it in my M18x. Flashing the correct vBIOS solved my problem. Only try it as a last resort if the driver doesn't work.
    I also tried changing from Legacy to UEFI and a bunch of different drivers before going for the vBIOS. Wasted a lot of time before sorting it out.
     
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    I've double checked my modded inf file (nvdmi.inf). My install package came from the nvidia downloads and I chose windows 10 64-bit from the drop-down, so I think it makes sense that I only had one section that worked with installing the driver (Section 43, namely) and I had replaced 05AB with 05AA for the 980m only (in the section list and at the end of the file). Regardless, there were no other sections that were 13D7.05AA(or AB).1028.

    I can try other drivers, although I do recall one detail: Back when the card had the basic microsoft adapter, the error in device manager said that the card POSTed with an unexpected id, which hinted to me that the sBIOS didn't recognize the card.

    Edit: Also, windows installing a 2017 driver would cause black screen on loading the driver and shut down soon-ish after. The card is, however, seen in BIOS as NVIDIA GFX.
     
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    I can make you a modded driver if you like. It can be a little tricky at first.
    It may also be misleading of me to use the word 'section'. There will be a long block of different Hardware ID lines in numerical order and they will have different 'section' numbers in their codes but these aren't the sections that I am talking about. At the end of that huge list of hardware ID lines it will start again with another huge list of the same hardware ID lines. When that long list has finished then there is another long list of the same Hardware ID's listed again. These three long lists were for the different OS versions. You either have to find the correct set of lines for your OS or put your line into each list.
    If you do the click and drag down on the slider bar on the right then you can skip right past the other sets of lines really easily.
    The first time I modded a driver I only put my hardware ID line in the first set of codes and my driver failed. Only when I put it in all 3 did it work.

    I'm still not convinced that your code 43 is driver related but I hope so as it's the easiest thing to fix.
     
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    Likewise, I may have written what I meant in a confusing manner...
    In short, I used search (not scroll) to find, double check and replace any 05AB to 05AA, corresponding to 13D7 and 1028.

    If you want to give it a try, I will not say no.
    I believe you will need this:
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    VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_05AA1028
    The driver I downloaded was for: GeForce GTX 980m, Windows 10 64bit, DCH, international, WHQL, 445.75. Link.
    If you think a different driver might work, point me to it, so I can download it.

    Did you also get to see my edit of my previous post? Because I also don't think it's merely a driver issue.
     
  10. Maxware79

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    Yeah I’m leaning towards a different problem but it would be good to rule out the driver. I’m not sure if I’ll have a chance to make one tonight. I have to put a bunk bed together for my girls


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