Alienware 15 FHD IPS vs UHD IPS (Response time, ghosting, downscaling...)

Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by arladeveze, Jan 3, 2017.

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  1. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    I owned the p34w v3, the v4 and v5 are still the same. Tested the x3 and x7 for a while. As long as they refuse to revise the base design (plastic frame with aluminium sheets and plastic keyboard tray inlays they sont receive my support.

    Really checl those in real. The the hinges, the gaps between keyboard tray and chassis, heat output and out of the box battery health. You will be surprised.
     
  2. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    First off, why did you own 3 if you dont like them?

    I see the Aorus X5 V6 all the time, a good friend owns one. I still don't know what your talking about. The hinges are tight and smooth not loose, and there is very little flex in the chassis and lid. Machining is well above the norm. Battery health was like 97% which is pretty standard. Temps were also better than the current Alienwares, not worrying at all.

    I get that you don't like that its not as dense as an AW or unibody aluminum machine but it's better than MSI GT series machines or Clevos.
     
  3. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    I tested them for a friend who runs a computer shop. Thats why I could test various Clevo machines, Aorus machines etc. The Gigabytes I bought from Amazon. They where more expensive than AW in Europe by the way.
     
  4. Vostro1911

    Vostro1911 Newbie

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    I have the Alienware 17 r3- I7HK & GTX980m How do you go about downscaling to 1080p? Mine looks horrible when I try to game a 1080p I feel I have tried a lot but nothing work to not make it look like pixelated crack /cry I Thought I knew alot about these things ... perhaps I am just overlooking and it might just be something really simple. Can you walk me through or just a refresh the intel setting to play 10080p off my UHD when gaming? I am using windows 10. about to reformat to windows 8.1 pro...
     
  5. zergslayer69

    zergslayer69 Liquid Hz

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    Nothing special really. You literally just choose 1920x1080 as your res. And yes upon immediate change you will go "holy crap what happened to the graphics its all pixelated and crap" but unless you play games with really bad posture and lean in so that your face is a foot away from the screen, you'll quickly adjust and forget that it isn't as sharp as 4K anymore. Or unless you got really amazing eyesight.

    Anyways, not sure if that answered your question. Running any resolution low than native will always look worse, but since it's less demanding you can smooth it out with some AA and still come out ahead with framerates. I think you might've misread my previous post thinking I had a magic solution to making 1080p look good on a 4k screen. Basically just saying that for general gaming, it's not as drastic as it initially appears.
     
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    nickbarbs Notebook Deity

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    So you CAN tell the difference.

    I get a bit annoyed with posters saying downscaling has no effect - it does - and yes some of us do have perfect eyesight .
     
  7. DeeX

    DeeX THz

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    • The FHD has a 25ms response time and the 4k has a 27ms response time.
    • Playing on ANY LCD outside of its native resolution will cause it to dramatically lose sharpness.
    • Scaling can cause issues with some apps that simply wont scale and look extremely small. It can also distort other things in Windows.
    Notes: Some people don't care about the loss of sharpness. Some people forget how sharp a native res is until they go back to a native res.
    Bottom line is that its physically impossible to get the sharpness (clarity) on a resolution other then the native resolution. So choose your LCD based on what resolution you plan on playing games at.
    Playing games at 4K although cool, will dramatically reduce your FPS (obviously) so really I personally feel 1080p gaming is still viable because you still get decent clarity, plus it runs really fast.
     
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    Yea absolutely. I agree, anybody who claims there's no effect is probably blind and/or has really bad eyesight. But what I was trying to say wasn't that there's no difference. The point is that when your eyes are at normal distance from the 17" screen of maybe 2 feet and beyond, the difference of 1080p with AA and 4K stars to blur (no pun intended) during gameplay/motion. Again this is just my experience as some people's eyes can pick out the difference more so than others and I'm definitely not new to ultra high res screens. The whole point of this isn't to say anybody is wrong, but I don't want people to get the idea that picking the highest possible res screen is always automatically the best choice once you factor in things like crap Windows scaling and etc.
     
  9. Vostro1911

    Vostro1911 Newbie

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    Haha, DeeX! I tried lying to myself like some people do then later on It seems like no difference... then you see you someone or a friend using a 4k and you LIKE /Heartattack This mind trick is a lie! But I completely agree and could see that happen. I tried it but I failed at that game... lol

    Does anyone know the 1080p part number that would fit the uhd screen cable and do I need but a 30 pin instead? It is just the computer runs to hot and frankly I rather have better good gaming experience than 20-30 spiking FPS on UHD. I have researched this but I can's get a complete definite for the part numbers. I know the are compatible is doing able without any modding. Can anyone make my day?

     
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    aliendude2 Newbie

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    Hey DeeX I'm new to laptop screens, quick question for ya...you mention the FHD has a 25ms response time while the QHD has a 5ms response time though it has some of its own issues. For intensive gaming purposes, which would you recommend in combination with the 1070gtx?
     
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