Aero 15x v8 bios flash to full 1070

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  1. TheGuiltyFlea

    TheGuiltyFlea Notebook Enthusiast

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    Flashing a gtx 1070 bios onto a gtx 1070 max-q.

    So I'm just wondering if anybody had done this with the aero 15x v8. Is it foolish?
    I'm wondering how much the vrm's can handle and for how long. does anybody have that spec?

    so Caution to the wind i flashed away
    I found a NVflash with bios certs disabled and a 125w bios that flashed.
    cmd prompt with the command "nvflash.exe -6 biosname.rom" a few warnings later bios flashed.

    Rusults- the card clocks to 1800mhz stable and just over 1v on the core without overclocking and shows 120w ish of power consumption that's 30w over the stock bios
    Unplugged it clocks to 1400 @ .800v so unplugged it now has more performance than stock plugged in
    The performance gain is noticeable there is no throttling no buzzing temps are up 5 degrees or so but still like 80 max i do have liquid metal also have lapped and balanced the heatsink so keep that in mind
    i would like to know if anybody else has played with this and exploded there vrm's? And if nothing else i can be that example of what not to do with your aero 15x :) look forward to responses

    Little update +200 on the core bounces between 1911 and 1850 + 700mem. Several hours and some benchmarks later i scored a 16432 in firestrike #13 of people with a max q
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/21745601

    Another update. Performance increase in massive but i must return to stock until i have the patience to flash it with a spi programmer to unlock the voltage slider
    With the 125w bios It occasionally freezes and reboots i am assuming OCP of sorts. Besides that one of the inductors has gotten a slightly bubbled look so 125w is just too much for the vrm's long term.
     
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    hi mate i got an aero 15 oled with 2070 max q and trying to find an higher TDP and frequencies bios, found only razer's one on techpowerup database but gives problems running the videocard, strange clocks and low performance (10 fps).
    Which bios did you use? i can get a try, shouldn't be dangerous since it will boot with intel HD so i can always reflash original one i think, may you help me a little unleash this monster? i had the same laptop but with a 2060 before (1 month ago) and flashed a strix 2060 laptop bios with higher TDP and unleashed +1000 points in time spy (6700 point, which is actually same as 2070 max q best out of there... so i think i can do the same with 2070 max q pushing it a little bit futrther... i'm assuring temps are keeping down using cooling pad, thermals pads and liquid metal, plus undervolting CPU, so temps are ok, i'm on latest bios, upgraded to 2 SSD's at 3000mb write and read speed and 32gb ram 16x2 in dual channel... so unleashing the 2070 max q power is the last thing i have to do but can't find a right bios out there.... any hint? would appreciate it a lot, will post this to your thread but also if possible to private message
     
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    espmic86.
    The Bios i used Wont Work for you if you have an RTX 2070 max-Q Card I have 1070 Max-Q.
    Besides That even if you Keep it cool The Vrm's Will not Tolerate it very long They Just arent rated for it. Pull The Datasheets for your mosfets and see for yourself
    That being Said you Will Need a RTX 2070 mobile non max-Q Bios
    or Preferably a hard flash With a Programmer With your own modified Bios That has a Carefully calculated TDP Suiting your Vrm Setup
     
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    In fact I fhasled all bioses of max q even 9o and 100 tdp and +300mhz but still gets same result and gigabyte as main vendor like this cannot be flashed even flashing goes ok but main values (vendor and max tdp) aren't changes so even with msi razer Asus and so on I get still 6700 timespy and same frequencies under testing , still using afterburner strangely overclock works within the gigabyte tdp and can get over 7000 timespy.

    Still, if a want a default setting with changed bios with 100w minimum tdp and +200 at least clocks for base and boost clocks, the only solution is to modify my bios and flash externally with a programmer?

    Would you help me modifying the bios and buying the programmer and learn fastly how to flash externally? I made all mods possible, rams, ssds, raid, liquid metal, thermals pads everywhere, changed MOSFET and rams and cooler pads with thermal grizzly ones, undervolt, cooling pad, temps and performance are max, modding is max, but I can't tolerate a razer blade can get 100 w on the same card which still is max q, can't tolerate that I can't even use that bios, so, as a final step and mod, I would love to accomplish to make my 2070 maxq a full operative card, since it stays 65°C under stress at only 0,6-0,8v I want to push minimum at 1v with +300mhz stock reaching at least 100w tdp, if this requires externally bios flashing I will do it but this would be the first time for time, time to learn, would you be my teacher for this first try?

    Edit: even if possible this chip stated and revision name is a max q design, I think it can be overrides as a 2070 standard? Same chip? Even if board I'd mismatch would it work forcing? I can both use a max q bios , or to transform to a full 2070 if it's the same chip after all, but I didn see anyone doing any flashing (software or hardware) on any aero 15 oled... This is strange cause many people did it with 2060 model and it works easily just flashing Asus strix 2060 laptop bios and job is done with nvflash and you get +1000 time spy, strange no-one accomplishe or tried or found a solution about the 2070 ax q version, can't even find people talking about it

    Btw I thought performance were close to desktop version, but I recently made a 2060 super desktop and gets 9300 time spy with 9600k at 5.1 andghz 10300 timespy with 9900k at 5.1ghz, so even if the 9750 at 4ghz full cores is better in results of 9600 which is 6 cores no hyperthrrad versus 9750h 12 thread 4ghz (operating at 45w, while the 9600k only 6 cores no other threads requires 1.35v 125watts real usage and is slower than 9750h in cinebench test, so the processor of this laptop is actually a GOD, this means that the performance of rtx 2060 and 2070 max q actually sucks since they get around 6000 and 7000 time spy versus 9900-1000 of regular 2060 desktop, so this means, since the gpu chips are actually the same with same CU and cuda cores, and since temps and voltages are ok, and since vrm should handle easily 0.8v and 1v, I think it's MANdATORY to get this mobile gpus as close as a desktop version untill they are under safe temperatures and voltages and consumption and we have a lot of margin according to actual testing and results, so why not doing it? Minimum goal must be 8000 time spy modding the 2070 max q, Will be accomplish this goal as a mission to accomplish? I think we can reach that result
     
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    It's likely you arent finding any info on it because people are scared of seeing a new 2k$ laptop let out the magic smoke. A desktop gpu has 6+ mosfets and inductors for just the gpu core our laptops have 3 including the one for the ram so this is highly not recommended
    For external flash you will need a usb eeprom programer. It Can also be done with a raspberry pi with linux installed or a handful of other sbc's
    If you are lucky then you can use an sop8 test clip attached to the programer. Otherwise you need to remove the chip
    You will need to extract your bios with GPUZ or similar and set your desired TDP with mobile Pascal tdp tweaker and flash your custom bios
    But wait Nvflash cannot flash a modified bios so this is where the programmer comes in to play
    use an sop8 test clip and attach it to the chip. It's under the heatsink and has vbios printed on the pcb next to it attach the other end to your desired programmer. Try to flash. If it fails then desolder chip and try again should flash this time but will need to be removed to flash every time if that's the case
     
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    Actually nvflash flashes the bios, I must try modding it with Pascal tdp tweaker, j flashed already ten bios and notice the difference, just the tdo remains forced , but gigabyte vendor remains but all the rest changes including speeds etc .. probably it flashes but not all parts are written... Useless to make an external flashing with risk to smoke it, for what? +10% performance?

    Nvflash is not risky, MOSFET are enough for 110w power limit, even if bios is not good and card gets broken you just boot with intel iGPU and reflash original

    There is no risk at all using nvflash and all bios and to use from 80 to 110w TDP if we find a way to flash, the risk is only using external programmer.

    Also actually gets 7200 time spy which is good (well, 2gb more then 2060, this is the only real plus, because modded aero with 2060 was performing 6700 time spy so the cards are close.... The point in fact is that modded 2060 is up to 90w... Here stock 2070 is 80w and considering more cores the frequencies are even lower will never go up... So a minimum of 90w is required (as razer and msi do) to justify the choice of a 2070 max q over a 2060, otherwise they perform exactly the same... The plus is that aero oled is 4k and 2gb vram more are the sweet point for gaming at 4k, the card can do it, 2060 sometimes gets limited from the 6gb of ram.

    Btw, best laptop every best monitor ever, best performancer ever, best cost ever (you can find oled 2070 version for 1800 eur), same performance and nicer and cooler things even compared to razer msi Asus and dell Alienware which will cost for the same hardware minimum 3000 eur.

    2x2TB NVME 970 Evo plus in raid, thunderbolt 3 4x full speed, best uhs-ii as card reader, smallest design and compact, you out inside 32gb of ram and make undervolt and repast with liquid metal both CPU and gpu, put thermal pads, put on a cooling pad, use wireless Xbox elite series 2 pad, wireless hs70 headset with nahimc astonishing surrounds , g602 wireless and wireless keyboard, plus oled quality no input lag and deep black perfect angle vision and satisfaction after mod with low temps and low fan speed... This is the most exciting purchase in ten years and the best buy of all laptops of all the times.... Best workstation and for all uses.

    Thanks gigabyte z the nice thing is that this is way better of their aorus model which should in theory be for gamers.... This is absolutely the best laptop in the world at the best affordable price.

    Yeah I know, what does this concern? Nothing , just excited for it having since 2 days and had to share this excitement ... Will pass in 24 hours ahahhaha
     
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    Ps can this be possible? Got stable with a -0,280v undervolt full 4ghz at only 0,9 in cinebench stable, only 55° ... I ve seen people going maximum -0,150 / -0,180...

    This laptop never stops surpring me holy ****
     
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    -0.280v is more than I have seen and likely not as stable as you think. Cinebench is not a suitable stability test try Occt or intel burn test

    "Actually nvflash flashes the bios" yes because you have not modified the bios you used a stock bios for another laptop.

    "Useless to make an external flashing with risk to smoke it, for what? +10% performance" exact same thing could be said about nvflashing another OEM's bios.
    external flash is no more risky than using nvflash it does the same thing just bypasses Wright protections and allows you to set exactly the tdp you want. external flash is only for a custom modified bios edited with mobile Pascal tdp tweaker because those wont flash with nvflash.

    Honestly I would flash the system aptio bios and unlock that. So you can undervolt from the bios along with other goodies and then toss xtu or throttlestop

    I would leave the vbios alone because OEM's dont put headroom in laptops they build them to the required specs. It's not like the system will just shut off if it dosent like it. it will overdraw the mosfets and they will degrade quickly and just stop working. You can do as you please but I went back to stock after some testing because I had no doubt it wouldent last long. It took 30min to bubble the top of my inductors with 125w bios
     
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    edited, added latest message with updates after this reply
     
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    successfully pushed 100w bios on 2070 maxq

    now results are egual to full 2070

    timespy 7500
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CzXwZrkgFOBwKzau5G-m6rPMjiQ7jmHO/view?usp=sharing

    firestrike 18000
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bz0KNkLpgV34wGThwaK-vhLRQcF4bcfj/view?usp=sharing

    shadow of tomb raider 31 fps maxed to the unlimited, 60fps 4k optimized settings, and 120fps full hd gaming settings

    1310 cinebench R15 and 120fps opengl
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/10JKal-omYY4HiRULdGONT-gfVU5DFSLu/view?usp=sharing

    my cpu settings
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14LsUb8h5Ha1WAToExF4L_BPLoP4QDkj_/view?usp=sharing

    my gpu settings
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V2B0XcH9fmxLf8ft2ZMkJy28aCdOwpGq/view?usp=sharing

    shadow of tomb raider ULTRA MAXED 4K more than 30 fps
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_p_66mP5sb_orc_bOXEkRNtyFarGrWaH/view?usp=sharing

    shadow of tomb raider 4k optimized settings for 60 fps
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KR5LkSX0QEz9jRBYdfg4ER4tEYLn0gNj/view?usp=sharing

    shadow of tomb raider 120 fps in FULL HD
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QKDa5vnVsJr0nr3dShth18HKkU637TVu/view?usp=sharing

    temps under 100% stress AVX2 + 4K GPU heavy load never goes up to 70 degrees, never decrease speed, never throttles
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U9_CxqxIr8ox2D4BFhvSxV2dlbZBn45y/view?usp=sharing

    my XTU profile link
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GJsLjyN9GWt_7FJL3kZP8o826hKD42aL

    my 100W RTX 2070 MAX Q BIOS
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-42dTo_DnSeJEMzbQbH_zngsFfqJc4SH/view?usp=sharing

    SSD Speed (now using 2x 2TB SSD's) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1arJ3HofMz3Hjp_Sxczwu1QmjNjzENhCM/view?usp=sharing

    32GB of Memory, test here:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iMVdsTRt76059FSBhlH3m2TeQs9jba39/view?usp=sharing




    mods: liquid metal, undervolt, vbios mod just nvflash, 3mm*2 (6mm) thermal pads everywhere

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iX2OUjP5mADnH3KFgWmvC4P2Zeh-Q8R0/view?usp=sharing

    (keep attention to northbridge, it reaches 100 degrees everywhere), cooling pad, fresh windows install, windows optimization and many tweaks, gigabyte control center tweak, must use it so that PL1 on GPU will push 100w on GPU as per vBIOS otherwise hardware only will limit to 90w, must use AI gaming azure download and upload feature, it will help A LOT (i didn't belieave it), do not use killer software, install ethernet and wifi with intel drivers, do not use touchpad drivers, install elan drivers.
     
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