Advice before purchasing MacBook Pro 13"

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  1. Reverence

    Reverence Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello

    I am about to purchase MacBook Pro 13" before I do I want to ask your guys opinion about:

    1. Touch Bar do you really need it? I will use the laptop mainly for internet watching movies? the only benefit I can see is the 4 type-c exits.

    2. Upgrading the ram? Do you really need it? I am not using any type of programs this is not a working laptop.

    3. Upgrading the SSD? Is 256GB will be enough? If I have a thunder bolt 8TB drive connected to it.

    4. My last question will be I will need a good type-c hub with 4K 60Hz exit to watch HDR content some recommendations please.

    Thank you for your answers.
     
  2. don_svetlio

    don_svetlio Notebook Virtuoso

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    Before purchase. Ask yourself this. Is MacOS the primary reason you are buying the device. If the answer is yes - proceed with the non-touchbard model. If the answer is no, consider the LG Gram, Dell XPS 13, Asus ZenBook series or HP's new Spectre
     
  3. Danishblunt

    Danishblunt Notebook Deity

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    1.) No, you won't ever need the touchbar, it's completely dumb. it feels really gimmicky and feels inferior to the hotkeys you actually have.
    2.) You cannot upgrade any ram, it's soldered, if u use apps like photoshop, then you need some ram it eats ram like nothing else.
    3.) Depends what you need the macbook for.
    4.) There are lots and lots of issues with the new macbooks and their dongles when connecting to a 4K TV. I don't know why but it causes all kinds of issues, some dongles won't work. When using dongles that work some macbooks just randomly shut dwn their wlan etc.

    So I'd strongly suggest getting a MPB non dongle edition aka everything with 2015 and below or consider a windows notebook.
     
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    don_svetlio Notebook Virtuoso

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    The 2010-2012 models are notorious for failing motherboards. Avoid those if going used. The 2013-2014 models are solid.
     
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  5. electrosoft

    electrosoft Tick Tock Clarice....

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    1. I like the touchbar but I could easily get by without it.
    2. Ram is soldered and non user upgrade able so one area to not skimp on is maxing out ram
    3. Depends on what you do, but worse case scenario is auxiliary external storage if needed as you noted. You also have
    cloud storage options depending on content
    4. Your best bet for a USB-C -> HDMI is to focus on single function dongles. For some reason, the multi function dongles end up
    with a higher rate of problems.

    With only USB-C ports, the pros are every port can be turned into anything you want and the power can be connected to either side. The cons are, well, you're going to need various dongles for specific functionality but I like the flexibility. I simply identified the functionality I required and acquired the proper dongles (USB 3.1, mDP, HDMI) and that was that.

    The new Macbooks are decent, but make sure you go to an Apple Store (or other Apple dealer) and really give the keyboard a workout. It takes a little time adapting to it, but once you do you're good to go. I hated it at first, but after a few weeks I found myself really liking it. While the Radeon 560 isn't going to win any GPU awards, it is much more powerful than the anemic Nvidia 650/750 and Apple is going full steam ahead with native metal 2 support and Radeon as their GPU du jour up to and including Vega (yes, yes Nvidia is supported too natively for older hardware and with Nvidia's own web drivers).
     
  6. Sentential

    Sentential Notebook Consultant

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    Actual Mac owner unlike a lot of folks who will reply.

    1. The touchbar for me wasn't particularly useful like it was for some of my family members. The nicest thing about the TB was the built in fingerprint reader for me personally. As for watching movies you need to be very careful about that. While your output may be full Display-Port over USB-C bear in mind just because your TV says it is 4k 60hz does not mean it actually is and could cause motion issues. Had an Alienware I intended to do what you suggested and the video for me was unwatchable for games despite having a *good* 120hz 4k TV.

    2. Upgrading RAM on newer Macs is not possible

    3. Upgrading SSDs on current generation Macs again is not possible. Whether it is enough or not is up to you; normally 256GB will manage. Not sure why you would need an 8TB drive when you could just as easily use a NAS or Time Capsule.

    4. Apple uses USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 over Display Port for video output which is good for 8k @ 60hz so a dock wouldn't be needed. HDR is also depending upon the monitor and not so much the iGPU as Kabylake supports it natively.

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    If you're just watching movies have you considered an AppleTV, Shield, or even a XboxOneS instead? If you need it to be brought with you perhaps you should instead consider the Standard Non-Pro Macbook
     
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    I've had my Macbook 15" for a year now and I've concluded that I like the system but Touchbar has been more like Siri then anything else. Meaning if you use Siri regularly then you're probably the type of person who is going to like the touchbar and actually use it. If you don't, then you're probably only going to use it to do the common things like adjust volume and adjust brightness and that's it... Because that's pretty much me.
     
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    z31fanatic Notebook Consultant

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    I've had both, TB and non TB. I chose to stay with the non TB because of better battery life. The only thing I miss the TB for was for the touch ID. It's a very convenient feature.

    About the RAM, if you can afford it, go with the 16GB option because if you plan to keep the laptop for a long time you can't upgrade it later because it's soldered to the motherboard. Modern operating systems and programs are getting heavier and heavier.

    Only you know how much storage space you need. 256GB is enough for me for my use case. The base non TB model does have removable SSDs but the only way to upgrade it is finding one on ebay that was pulled from another machine. You can't use a standard M.2 drive or even one from the 2013-2015 Macbooks. Apple changed the proprietary interface with the 2016 and 2017 models. :rolleyes:
     
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