Acer Predator Helios 500

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  1. Alex771

    Alex771 Newbie

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    Does anyone own or test this laptop?
    I'm interested in finding results/stats from benchmarks and stress tests esp temperatures and CPU overclock (it seems some owners couldn't overclock even near to 4.1 GHz)
    I'm referring to the version with Intel i7 8750H 6x Max. 4.1GHz, Nvidia gtx 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM
    Would love to see undervolting values and temps.
     
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    Of course you can’t OC this Cpu. Core i7-8750H is an fully locked down chips. Aka 3.9GHz on all 6 cores. Or 1 and 2 cores 4.1GHz Turbo Boost.
     
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    Here's a review for Jarrod's Rech (8750H, GTX 1070):





    Finding reviews for this are tough. This review includes some benchmarking results:

    Cinebench - 120.82 (Open GL)
    Geekbecn - 5684 (single core); 20230 (multi-core)
    Heaven - 84.3 fps/2125 score

    Some more benchmarking info here:

    https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/acer-predator-helios-500
     
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    This i7 8750h power throttling is growing more and more suspicious. In June it's around 1280 on cinebench r15 multicore and now its around 1100. Hmmmmmmmmm
    Is intel trying to create a bigger gap with its i9 8950hk that can't fully perform in most laptops.
     
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    Megol Notebook Evangelist

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    Variations in heat paste perhaps in combination with per-processor capabilities? When Intel (or anyone else) bins/tests processors each category have a lower level and a higher level of performance, if one user tests with a machine with a good processor plus good paste it'll test better than the worst processor with worse heatpaste. Or not. :)
     
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    Laptopmag has some benchmark scores. I really don't understand why Geekbench 4 scored so much lower than the Aorus X9. Is this because of the Helios GTX 1070? Would performance been similar if this laptop was equipped with a GTX 1080?

    I can't find a reference for the amount of OC and UV on the reviewer's Helios. We would need to take these results with a grain of salt.

    https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/acer-predator-helios-500

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    Crippled power limits with stock clocks and average out around 3.9GHz. See... Can’t hold stock clocks. Reviewers re-use others tests. Use Google:)
     
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    You got me thinking again @Papusan!! In his review, @Quadron found the Aorus crippled by power throttling out of the box. He easily fixed that and got better results. The reviewers laptopmag and Tom's Hardware didn't correct for that, and produced tests that are simply misleading. I'm using the review for X7 here and not the X9 because the message is clear: Can't trust a thing you hear about anything on the internet.

    I'm sure the Helos' performance would improve had the reviewer taken the time to report valid and useful results.

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    Yeah, I know:D

    You don't know how hard Acer's firmware/software engineers have crippled the firmware in the model. But awful results from the unlocked 6 core i9 BGA. Even lower Cinebench R15 score than most of the power gimped i7-8750H in any model out there.

    Acer Predator Helios 500 Review: Core i9 Powered
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    I found this discussion thread related to the topic:

    https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/546472/helios-500-no-turbo-boost

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    Is this not the same problem @Quadron saw on the Aorus? Wouldn't increasing the power limit via XTU eliminate the power throttling problem? He had to increase PL2 from 63 watts to 101 watts in order to hit the overclock.

    Just wondering if the Helios is so locked down that a factory of vaseline wouldn't let you increase the power limits as needed. If that is the case, why aren't the reviewers doing their due diligence in reporting?
     
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