Acer Predator Helios 500 (Ryzen+Vega) $1299

Discussion in 'Notebook and Tech Bargains' started by Ifrin, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. ole!!!

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    were you guys able to upgrade to latest zen2? 8 cores 3700x you'd get a very decent performance boost and extend your battery life. the new cpu uses about 25% less power than 2700 while performing better, 15% IPC.
     
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    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Geez man, you know they can't do that, why rub it in?

    Let them enjoy their new laptop's as is and we'll all wait for new laptop releases to allow upgrades to newer technologies.

    At $1299 the laptop is a great performing laptop and can last someone many years.

    Few people need or want to waste time chasing a few percentage points faster hardware every few days, they are happy with what they have and enjoy it for years, until they need to upgrade it - not just because something faster comes out a few months later.
     
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    i asked because i dont know. i didnt bother to check laptop OEM's website to see if they release updated bios or what not. i did hear some people talking about these oem came out with bio releases to support zen2 so i assumed it exist.

    now that i think about it, oem going bga is to force people buy brand new laptop, 90% chance they wont bother with bios and force peopel buy brand new lmao.
     
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    Really? You've been active in this and all of the other Ryzen laptop threads for over a year, how could you not know they are not providing firmware updates to enable upgrading the CPU's???
     
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    not active, sometimes i pop in to do some msg and reply, i dont follow it extensively. how i browse forum is different than how u browse, now we know LOL.

    if only prema can help them, im sure they'd have a bios work with zen2 by now.
     
  6. John239

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    Do you guys recommend this laptop for gaming and conducting work as an insurance adjuster
     
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    Acer build's are pretty solid so you can depend on it for normal use, but your use might be a bit too much over time.

    Don't you need a device with some rugged features? It's going to get moved in and out of the vehicle and in and out of unfamilar settings often, so I'd pick a rugged + light device - this one isn't too heavy but it's not light.

    What about a Panasonic Toughbook? They look bulky but have lighter models, like the new Toughbook 55:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-55-designed-for-the-mobile-workforce.830345/

    That's not for AAA gaming, you could do web gaming and lighter games that the built in iGPU can handle, or upgrade to the discrete GPU module but not sure how that model Radeon GPU performs in games. Maybe wait for hands-on testing and reviews?
     
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    The weight itself wouldnt bother me. I'm a big guy. However i wanted something with kick to play on the side. Maybe something made by clevo with a rtx 2060 or levono 740?
     
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    Acer and Lenovo in my experience are built more solidly, and it's not so much the weight it's the wear of moving it about so much each day, laptops are more fragile than you would expect with internals busting loose if dropped even if externally they look ok, and the externals are fragile too and will crack / bust easily too.

    If you have kids around the laptop that's another consideration - I've seen a friend go through 3 screens in a row with his daughters running around the kitchen table knocking it off. A rugged built laptop wouldn't have been so fragile and cost less in total than his laptop + screen replacements.

    If you have a good case and good handling skills you might never drop it, but someone else can "help" and move it poorly and drop it, or it can slide off a hood or seat, etc.

    The Lenovo or Clevo wouldn't be a step up in ruggedness from the Acer Helios 500 anyway... that's why I went right to the Panasonic Toughbook for ruggedness as I've heard it's a favorite of insurance adjusters.

    You could do what I do and dual carry (or triple carry +) and bag the gaming laptop separately to avoid problems.

    Lock it up in the vehicle comes to mind, but then again my recommendation is to never leave a laptop in the vehicle as there are people with skills and motivation just waiting for someone's lapse in judgement to take their laptop out of the vehicle.

    I'd leave the gaming laptop at home and carry a light rugged device for the job, besides no matter the gaming laptop styling it won't look as professional as a rugged laptop that customers would expect.

    For working as a Programmer / Systems person carrying a gaming laptop to work isn't quite as bad as we are all of a kind.

    Whereas the general public is less understanding, more judgmental, and like to complain, something to consider.
     
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    Thank you for the feed back. I see your points and agree. I guess I could carry to or have one for home.
     
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