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Acer Hidden Recovery Partition

Discussion in 'Acer' started by baz999, Feb 7, 2005.

  1. baz999

    baz999 Newbie

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    Hi All,
    I accidently errased the hidden partiton on my Acer laptop!. I am wondering if any member would be good enough to use norton ghost and make a backup of their hidden partition and email me it. I beleave it is just for the Disk to Disk (D2D) recovery, but still want to reinstall it.

    I hope someone can help! [?]

    P.S I think the Aspire 1360 possable uses the same hidden partion since it also uses the same drivers
     
  2. tb2496

    tb2496 Notebook Enthusiast

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    have you tried the cd recovery? maybe it will re-create that partition.
     
  3. baz999

    baz999 Newbie

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    Hi m8,
    No that dosnt work, the recovery CD dosnt restore that partition. I looked on the acer website and they say once its gone its gone :(
    Thats the reson why I am trying to get someone to make an image of that partion for me.


    Baz
     
  4. george_l

    george_l Notebook Consultant

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    Baz999 i check the partion yestarday for you .The only way that struck me to extract it is Make another ghost copy of the partion and send it .. when i tried that its very huge comes around 1.7 Gb so its impossible for me to send it you

    I am trying to figure out how acer made this partion ( hav to do bit of resarch). I know its ghost image . But i dont know how they managed to mapp ALT + F10 to the reovery partions boot loader

    Once we know the procedure we can make our own custom ghost image and place it to hidden partion

    BTW : I suggest you rename the Topic name to some thing like Acer Hidden Recovery Partition or better so that more users would read the thread and give there inputs
     
  5. cdur

    cdur Newbie

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    I have spoted such partition on my acer 1522. What purpose of this partition is? Is it necessary to exist?
     
  6. bmhome1

    bmhome1 Notebook Consultant

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    A hard drive C partition will be fully reinstalled with all default applications, drivers and XP just by booting from the #1 CD of the recovery CD set (uses stripped-down Ghost) and following prompts. The hidden partition is unnecessary for a standard erase reinstallation.

    The contents can be viewed by enabling display invisible files in folder options. Be sure to return back to hiding invisible files default to avoid getting into trouble in XP! The partition is nearly full (2GB) in my version.
     
  7. baz999

    baz999 Newbie

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    Hi all,
    The hidden parttion is quite small if i remember correctly. You can see it in Partion Magic, but it dosnt show up under windows becouse it is not a normal fat/nts partion.
    The partion just allows the D2D (Alt +F10 during POST) to start the recovery proccess.


    Baz
     
  8. george_l

    george_l Notebook Consultant

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    From Windows Disk managemnt its clear that its Primary partion and the boot loader of hidden partion is of windows 98

    May be this weekend i will make and entire ghost image of disk( for backup) and start playing partion

    I am considering to install windows xp pro from scratch ,load all the drivers and essential program i require and make Acrons or ghost image and place it as recovery image

    FYI: With Acronis true image we can create hidden partion just as acer did with norton ghost its known as Acronis Secure Zone and we can store our own created recovery image on it and perform D2D recovery when ever we want

    and there is Acronis Startup Recovery Manager which allows you to boot the hidden partion by pressing F11 during startup ( just as acer did with ALT + F10)

    i.e You can create your own Recovery partion with Acronis drive image
     
  9. george_l

    george_l Notebook Consultant

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    Note : Please back up all your Data before attempting this . Your Partion will be deleted

    After downloading NAPP cd from above link burn the ISO

    Boot with newly creared NAPP CD

    The system will ask if you want to build napp Master HDD -- click Yes

    Then a menu will appear from that select - CD to Disk Recovery

    It will ask Recovery cd, put one by one till you finish all Recovery CDs

    Then insert the system CD to optical drive

    and you will get a "PASS" message when system has buil NAPP master hard disk drive





     
  10. george_l

    george_l Notebook Consultant

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    baz999

    There is tool to recover the acer hidden partion acer calls this NAPP
    Acer serice engineers have NAPP cd by which we can restore the hidden partion

    if want to try this here link
    http://csd.acer.com.tw/SI/Download2.nsf/0/83f45555e8e5ddb148256e99002bf13f?OpenDocument

    This is for TravelMate C110 but it will work for any model i guess

     
  11. baz999

    baz999 Newbie

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    Hi George,
    Well al I can say is WOW!...Thank you...I dont know how you mangaged to get that link, but that you :)

    Regards

    Baz
     
  12. chriscatt

    chriscatt Notebook Evangelist

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    Hallo all, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the hidden partition for the 'Arcade' player to work without windows started? Isn't the data required to perform a restore actually on the 'd' drive called 'Acerdata'?
    One other thing, as I've a 60g drive that's partioned in half, FAT32 limitation I guess, can I use Partition Magic to create one, larger, 'C' drive. if so which version of Partition Magic do I require?
    Thanks all.....
    ChrisC
     
  13. baz999

    baz999 Newbie

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    Hi All,
    Well I tried to re partition with that link....but no luck it dosnt see my DVD drive.
    I done a search on that site for "D2D" and got another older version, but still no joy
    It does give some error on boot, but its too quick too see + even when booted if you select Option 1 - Prepare Hard Drive, it just restarts the computer without doing anything.
    I had a look at the directories and tried the wrmpmgr prep ???(or simalar) command, but it gives me error code (5)

    Any Ideas?

    Baz

    P.S - The hidden partiton cannot be restored from the factory supplied discs, it is like a Plugin for the BIOS so you can do a D2D from the the bios
     
  14. george_l

    george_l Notebook Consultant

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    From what i understand

    The recovery partion is Primary partion and acer have customised the MBR so that when pc loads and ALT F10 is pressed it makes the hidden partion active and loads it else make 2nd partion ( c: where windows is stored) Active and loads windows

    Well NAPP CD was supposed to restore this setting . Try searching other source p2p for NAPP cd and try it out
     
  15. lapino

    lapino Notebook Enthusiast

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    Too bad I found this link too late, but I also managed to destroy the hidden partition (after starting partition magic, it said there were errors on that partition and I let it fix it).

    The NAPP cd isn't available anymore though. Can any1 PLEASE help me get this one!!
     
  16. george_l

    george_l Notebook Consultant

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    lapino
    That link is still working...Try connecting from different source . Hope you have the recovery cd then only you can reconstruct D2D partion

    baz999
    Since this .iso was meant for restoring TravelMate C110 . It checks for external USB CD-Rom Drive thats the reason its giving error...If you have an external HDD/Cdrom enclosure try connecting with it


     
  17. lapino

    lapino Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have an Acer Travelmate 4601WLMi, will this CD work with my laptop?
     
  18. bere

    bere Newbie

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    Hi! I backed up the service partition (with Ghost 9), and the erased it, and after some experiments, I gave up.. After I restored the partition (it took about half a day to make it all working again, and only thanks to linux bootbale cd's!), D2D isn't working! I am pretty sure it's the MBR, because I thouhgt ghost will back-up that too.. but not all of it!

    Can anyone send me a backup copy of your MBR (with a working Alt+F10), please?

    Thanks!
     
  19. gecko

    gecko Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anyone here actually tried the Napp CD yet? Does it work with all Acer Laptops?
     
  20. gosten

    gosten Newbie

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    Still no one who have managed to restore the recovery partion?

    I tried to replace the Home Edition of XP with Pro Edition, but I can't get the wireless connection to work, so I would like to restore the recovery partition.

    I've downloaded the image of NAPP cd, but I also get the error the the DVD-ROM is not found.

    Please help!
     

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